The Model Context Protocol (MCP) is evolving beyond local developer experiments and into the secure, remote infrastructure that will power the next generation of the internet. Brendan Irvine-Broque, Director of Product at Cloudflare, joins us to share a roadmap for this future. He explains how Cloudflare's "customer zero" philosophy of dogfooding their own tools provides a unique perspective on what it takes to scale MCP for production.

Brendan makes the case for observability as the ideal starting point for enterprises and lays out the vision for MCP's ultimate destination: a universal protocol for agent-to-agent communication. The conversation explores how remote servers can create a decentralized layer for security and user memory, and what the exciting development of MCP UI means for the future of chat-based applications. This is an essential look at the next wave of agentic systems and the infrastructure required to build it.

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