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  • The Next Normal: Your Money with Sarah Fallaw

    Does your household need a Chief Financial Officer? Sarah Fallaw, President at DataPoints, shares her knowledge and expertise on saving money and being financially successful in this episode of the Building Us podcast, hosted by Erik Garcia, CFP®, and Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT.


    Episode Highlights:


    • Sarah shares her background in industrial psychology, and how she applied the data and research that her father began back in the 80s. (4:20)
    • What are Sarah’s thoughts about income and wealth? (6:52)
    • What did Data Points find through the research that they recently did? (7:15)
    • Sarah shares what the household CFO is all about. (9:12)
    • How do you decide who's the household CFO? (13:04)
    • What’s their whole purpose at Data Points? (19:46)
    • Sarah discusses some of the things that we can do to perform better tasks as household CFO. (22:10)
    • What’s the correlation between setting aside time to manage money and amassing wealth? (32:57)

    • Key Quotes:


      • “No matter where you are, if you are kind of being frugal living below your means, ignoring what the people around you are doing, those folks tend to build wealth faster than those who spend everything that they have.” - Sarah Fallaw
      • “The more disciplined we are, when we have a plan, the better off we are. If we're able to create a plan that makes sense, that has a goal that’s meaningful to you, and you're able to be disciplined in following the plan, you have a better chance of success.” - Sarah Fallaw
      • “What can we automate and what will you be responsible for? I think that by doing that, make sure nothing slips through the cracks. But then, you've got this discipline in place even if it's something that’s using technology, it's a discipline.” - Sarah Fallaw

      • Resources Mentioned:


        • Erik Garcia, CFP®
        • Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT
        • Garcia Financial Group
        • Matt Morris & Associates
        • Sarah Fallaw
        • DataPoints
        • 51 min
        • The Next Normal: Your Health with Dr. Jose Calderon

          How does the mind-body connection contribute to illness or wellness? Jose Calderon- Abbo, MD, a Psychiatrist and Medical Director at Imagine Recovery, shares his knowledge and expertise on mind-body medicine and the GI tract in this episode of the Building Us podcast, hosted by Erik Garcia, CFP®, and Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT. 


          Episode Highlights:


          • Jose mentions that mind-body medicine is a discipline within medicine that understands the interconnection of multiple systems in the body. (9:23)
          • Jose shares that mind-body practices help us to understand holistically our well being, the connection within ourselves, and to our environment. (10:41)
          • Jose mentions that integration organizes living systems and greater integration is a natural evolutionary step of both individuals and society. (15:54)
          • Jose shares that in the eastern traditions, mindfulness is about mind-heart, as one element. While in western traditions, mindfulness is about the realization and recognition that there is a cognitive element and an emotional element. (21:36)
          • Jose shares that the GI tract has the largest number of neurotransmitters outside the brain, and it’s connected to the brain physically through the vagus nerve and innervates the entire GI tract. (23:25)

          • Key Quotes:


            • “From my mind-body perspective, medications are very helpful tools, but they’re not the only tool. Lifestyle and our social determinants of health are the ones that are actually weighed the most, that determine our health, well-being or illness.” - Dr. Jose Calderon-Abbo
            • “We need to make a concerted effort because we are elements of habit and elements of comfort. When the path of least resistance leads you to industrially tailored foods that are meant to create greater consumption and electronic media that is meant to create greater consumption, then the path of least resistance is problematic. We need to be putting the effort not to fall into it.” - Dr. Jose Calderon-Abbo
            • “How are we going to take care of each other? In thinking that taking care of each other in so many ways, the financial aspects of others, the communities of others, the health disparities and inequities that are happening. In taking care of others, we're taking care of ourselves. So that to me is my message for 2021.” - Dr. Jose Calderon-Abbo

            • Resources Mentioned:


              • Erik Garcia, CFP®
              • Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT
              • Garcia Financial Group
              • Matt Morris & Associates
              • Jose Calderon-Abbo, MD
              • Imagine Recovery
              • 1 hr 10 min
              • The Next Normal: Your Habits with Brandon Ecker

                How can consistency help you achieve your goals? In today’s episode of the Building Us podcast, Brandon Ecker M. Ed., Certified CrossFit Trainer and Head Coach at CrossFit NOLA joins co-hosts Erik Garcia, CFP® and Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT. Brandon talks about the significance of daily consistency, motivation empowerment, and what Crossfit is all about.


                Episode Highlights:


                • Matt introduces Brandon Ecker. (5:38)
                • Brandon shares that the motivation and empowerment that you gain when focusing on winning each day are more rewarding and more predictive of lasting change. (8:44)
                • Brandon thinks that consistency is significant. (12:14)
                • Brandon shares that from his experience, he has some lofty fitness goals, but it's hard to stay focused when they are far away chronologically. (12:38)
                • Brandon mentions one of the elements that empowered him was getting his design from his coach and treating it like a checklist. (13:00)
                • Brandon thinks that the design of the micro class, and the structure of the warm-up and cooldown, is one of the things that they have done well. (16:16)
                • Brandon shares that controlling the situations where you do have to make a tough decision and succeeding, could draw a lot of mental strength. (27:23)
                • Brad mentions that mental hardening potentially builds someone’s character. (27:54)
                • Brandon shares that you can benefit from all of the good habits that you've put into place. Because they're part of you now, and you're just chipping away goals along the way. (34:33)
                • Brandon mentions that CrossFit is about mechanics, consistency, and then intensity. (40:44)
                • Brandon shares that developing motor patterns that are incorrect are more difficult to change than coming than, than having like, no movement patterns at all or starting. (46:45)
                • Brandon mentions a book called One Small Step Can Change Your Life: The Kaizen Way, by Robert Maurer. (56:02)

                • Key Quotes:


                  • “Each morning, when we wake up, we get to start a new day. And like, it seems less daunting to think about winning the day or achieving what you need to achieve during the day than it does to think about winning the week or the month or year.” - Brandon Ecker
                  • “So, if your goal is to show up, and you kind of are dotting those i's and crossing those T's for a while, then it's not a goal that you really have to work for anymore. It's just like a habit. And then you can push that envelope a little bit to the next level.” - Brandon Ecker
                  • “If the small steps can create the type of person that is achieving these benchmark goals that can always be progressed, then not only are you getting those things and cashing in on those transactions, but you’re also growing as an athlete, as whatever endeavor you're in.” - Brandon Ecker

                  • Resources Mentioned:


                    • Erik Garcia, CFP®
                    • Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT
                    • Garcia Financial Group
                    • Matt Morris & Associates
                    • Brandon Ecker M. Ed.
                    • CrossFit NOLA
                    • One Small Step Can Change Your Life: The Kaizen Way
                    • 1 hr
                    • Is Marriage a Straight Jacket?

                      Is marriage constraining or liberating? In this episode of the Building Us podcast, co-hosts Erik Garcia, CFP®, and Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT explain why marriage is a straight jacket to some people, the aspects of premarital love, and how marriage makes you a better person.


                      Episode Highlights:


                      • Erik shares a study from Harvard that said, happiness and health aren't the result of wealth, fame, or working hard. But instead, it comes from our relationships, and being in a stable relationship is linked to both physical and mental health benefits. (1:43)
                      • Matt shares a small detail about their 2021 mini-series called, The Next Normal. (2:39)
                      • Matt thinks that love and marriage are at times crazy-making and at times gloriously beautiful, and experiencing both are part of being married. (7:31)
                      • Matt shares that if you accept them the way they are, they’re more likely to grow and change that there is a relationship between acceptance and change, or acceptance and growth. (9:13)
                      • Matt shares that marriage reveals our selfishness, and being married to the right person will still reveal your selfishness which you'll be then motivated to grow through and change so that both are focused. (13:42)
                      • Matt mentions that marriage doesn't mean you can keep doing whatever you want, for the rest of your life. But if that's your definition of a straightjacket, then maybe your expectations about marriage need to change. (15:34)
                      • Erik shares that the beautiful aspect of marriage is the commitment that two people make to each other, to accept, and love each other, unconditionally. (17:33)
                      • Matt shares that we need a partner with whom to go through life and we crave to create both love and family, and having a relationship that’s similar to marriage gives us the best opportunity. (20:02)
                      • Matt mentions that marital love is made up of different strands woven together, and he explains the meaning of each strand. (21:24)
                      • Matt shares that there’s an aspect of restraint to marital love. But not all marital love is restraining. There's a lot of freedom, fun, and enjoyment in marital love as well. (23:16)
                      • Matt mentions that not all marriage experiences the freedom to become their true self to the fullest. (28:29)
                      • Matt shares a story about how marriage is both constraining and liberating, at the same time. (37:29)
                      • Matt thinks that marriage is not a straight jacket. Rather, it comes with constraints that will lead to a greater sense of freedom and joy. (45:58)

                      • Key Quotes:


                        • “I think there is a protective element to a healthy marriage that does enhance our life that does bring health and wholeness and protection and security and a better judgment to our life. It makes us better people.” - Dr. Matt Morris
                        • “My experience in being married is the woman who absolutely adores and absolutely loves, and has the ability to make me feel the happiest and the most joy inside has also the ability to evoke the complete opposite reactions and that crazy feeling.” - Dr. Matt Morris
                        • “The adventure of marriage should continually be inspirational, that I should find inspiration from both my own marriage and from my spouse. And I think that if you, if you are no longer doing that, or haven't been doing that, that's something to talk about.” - Dr. Matt Morris

                        • Resources Mentioned:


                          • Erik Garcia, CFP®
                          • Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT
                          • Garcia Financial Group
                          • Matt Morris & Associates
                          • 54 min
                          • Crisis Fretting vs. Crisis Planning. Dealing with Quarantine Then and Now

                            What is the difference between crisis fretting and crisis planning? In this episode of the Building Us podcast, co-hosts Erik Garcia, CFP® and co-host Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT share tips on how to avoid crisis fretting and focus on crisis planning. 

                            Episode Highlights:

                            • Matt discusses the difference between crisis fretting and crisis planning. (1:53)
                            • Matt shares that crisis fretting is what we all want to avoid as much as possible. (2:03)
                            • Matt explains that crisis planning is focused on now or today. (4:25)
                            • Matt mentions that there’s a lot of unknowns between now, and a month from now. (5:30)
                            • Matt shares that crisis fretting will just drive people crazy. (6:10)
                            • Matt explains that crisis planning is live, reassuring, and smart. (6:24)
                            • Key Quotes: 

                              • “In times when we're feeling really threatened and uncertain about what's next. It's best to just focus more on now. Focus on Now” - Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT
                              • “You can really overwhelm yourself looking too far ahead.” - Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT
                              • Resources Mentioned:


                                • Erik Garcia, CFP®
                                • Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT
                                • Garcia Financial Group
                                • Matt Morris & Associates
                                • 9 min
                                • Why Is Saving Money So Hard?

                                  Why is saving money so difficult? In this episode of the Building Us podcast, co-hosts Erik Garcia, CFP®, and Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT ask a handful of people about how difficult it is for them to save money, and Erik shares the significance of saving money.


                                  Episode Highlights:


                                  • Matt shares that the significance of taking time to be grateful and appreciative of all the things that are good in our lives, at this moment, and one of the best aspects that we can give each other this holiday season, is appreciation. (2:27)
                                  • Erik shares that he’s trying to be intentional about looking for something every day to be grateful for it and looking for opportunities in 2020. Because we've been dictated so much by today’s outside forces. (3:01)
                                  • Erik mentions the one lesson that his father always shared that it still resonates with him. (8:36)
                                  • Erik shares that sometimes, saving is used interchangeably with the idea of investing. The idea of saving is putting something away in a safe place to be used at another time. On the other hand, investing is saving with the expectation to make more money. (12:42)
                                  • Matt mentions that putting money in a piggy bank is not an investment. (14:34)
                                  • Erik mentions that when he first wrote his e-book, he talked about the three types of savings: short term, midterm, and long term savings. (15:41)
                                  • Erik mentions that as a general rule of thumb, three to six times your expenses, of what it costs you to live is what you should have in a short term account. (19:32)
                                  • Matt mentions that behavioral finance is an understanding that we're not robots, that we do things based on emotion, we do things based on preconditions, assumptions, and history. (22:29)
                                  • Matt shares that If you're saying yes to saving the money, you're saying no to something else, and saying no is essential. But also, being aware of both sides of the equation is significant. (25:34)
                                  • Matt mentions one reason that saving is very difficult is because of the opportunity costs.
                                  • Erik mentions that financial planning is all about understanding what your values are, and what's vital to you. (30:04)
                                  • Matt shares another reason why saving is difficult for people is because of the right skill sets to do it and proper money management. (30:57)
                                  • Matt shares that saving is not equally easy for everyone. Because not everyone has the same income, and there’s a limit on how much you can save if your income is beneath your living expenses or right at your living expenses. (37:04)

                                  • Key Quotes:


                                    • “It's hard to say because it's so easy to spend and something like a piggy bank makes it a little harder to spend. You have to open the piggy bank, you have to extract the money. it's not as easy just to spend it.” - Dr. Matt Morris
                                    • “I am a coffee drinker. I love coffee. I'm not telling anyone right now to not drink coffee, I think it's just something that we have to be aware of when we spend, it's robbing us of the ability to do something else with that money, that opportunity costs which could be saving. So if we're not saving, and we have a lot of these habits of buying little small things regularly over time, it costs us a lot of money.” - Erik Garcia
                                    • “Saving is a skill, and the only way sometimes to get better at a skill is to practice it.” - Erik Garcia
                                    • “We're not advocating not spending just to save. What I advocate all the time is to spend money in a way that's aligned with what's important to you, that's aligned with your values.” - Erik Garcia

                                    • Resources Mentioned:


                                      • Erik Garcia, CFP®
                                      • Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT
                                      • Garcia Financial Group
                                      • Matt Morris & Associates
                                      • 1 hr 4 min
                                      • It's Trending: Adult Kids Moving Back In with Mom and Dad with Dr. Robert Casares

                                        How do parents react when their young adult children return home either in a planned or unexpected way? Robert Casares, Assistant Professor, Department of Counseling at Wake Forest University shares his research and insights on “Boomerang Parents” in this episode of the Building Us podcast, hosted by Erik Garcia, CFP®, and Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT. 

                                        Episode Highlights:

                                        • Erik introduces Robert Casares. (3:57)
                                        • Robert mentions that he’s done some research into Boomerang parents and what it's like for them when their young adult children come back to the home, either in a planned way or an unexpected way. (4:25)
                                        • Robert shares the story of how he came up with his research. (5:36)
                                        • Robert believes that ages 18 to 24 years old are generally students who found themselves in colleges that are closed, and now they're doing remote learning from home. (8:06)
                                        • Robert shares that those families that have a cultural component illustrate a significant point in his research and readings. (9:38)
                                        • Robert mentions a disclaimer, that the age of a young person returning home, the circumstances under which they find themselves needing to or wanting to come home, the age of their parents, socioeconomic status, and culture, all of those factors are significant variables. (12:42)
                                        • Robert shares that the circumstances under which someone comes home can create depression and stress within the relationship of the parents amongst one another, and amongst their child. (13:43)
                                        • Robert thinks that the inflection point in the relationship from parent to child comes down to communication and negotiation of expectations, and establishing boundaries. (20:42)
                                        • Robert mentions that as counselors, they have an action called informed consent, where the expectations, the scope of what they do, and the limits of confidentiality are all on the table. (38:10)
                                        • Robert mentions one of the scenarios he encounters frequently from the couples he’s working with is the thought of having a conversation about finances. (55:38)
                                        • Robert shares that from a mental health standpoint, when someone has goals that contribute to a sense of self-esteem when young people or families come together, it could help with the momentum, increase the likelihood that the goals and progress will be achieved. (58:04)
                                        • Key Quotes:

                                          • “I think maybe a silver lining out there for those parents who find themselves with kids coming back. There's a lot of research to say that for those parents who then take in their kids, those kids are more likely to take in the parents when the time comes, you know, decades down the line. So, it's almost an incentive to kind of pay your dues now because it will pay dividends later.” - Robert Casares
                                          • “Systems are resistant to change, and oftentimes when change happens, it gets worse before it gets better. And so initially, families might experience that level of depression. But over time, they reach homeostasis, they become accustomed to this new living arrangement, and it can become positive and there can be flourishing, but there's almost got to be that recognition of it will get worse before it gets better.” - Robert Casares
                                          • “Being able to see it as an opportunity to share resources during a time where resources might feel scarce to give the young person a chance to get a stable footing, and a clear vision of what are some viable paths that might be both fulfilling, but perhaps lucrative.” - Robert Casares
                                          • Resources Mentioned:

                                            • Erik Garcia, CFP®
                                            • Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT
                                            • Garcia Financial Group
                                            • Matt Morris & Associates
                                            • Robert Casares
                                            • Wake Forest University
                                            • The Reframe
                                            • 1 hr 10 min
                                            • What Does the Data Tell Us about Love and Money?

                                              How did a family therapist and a financial advisor decide to start a podcast? In this special bonus episode of the Building Us podcast, co-hosts, Erik Garcia, CFP®, and Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT take a turn in the guest chair, as the host of Agency Intelligence podcast, Jason Cass, interviews them about their knowledge and expertise on money and relationships and how the Building Us podcast is tackling these topics in a unique way. 

                                              Episode Highlights:

                                              • Jason introduces Erik Garcia and Dr. Matt Morris. (1:10)
                                              • Matt shares that he’s a Family and Couples’ Therapist, and a Professional Counselor, as well. (2:42)
                                              • Erik shares that he’s a Financial Advisor and a Certified Financial Planner. (2:50)
                                              • Matt shares that their podcast, Building Us, is all about love and money. They discuss anything that touches relationships. (6:09)
                                              • Erik shares that he was thinking about his idea of data and stats in the relationship world, as it relates to money in couples. (12:33)
                                              • Matt shares that they wanted to talk a little more about some of the research studies that deal with relationships and money. (15:05)
                                              • Why are we all griping about money? (16:09)
                                              • Matt shares that money is a decision that has to be made, a decision that includes values, priorities, planning, and all of that come with emotions and opinions, which results in conflicts. (16:38)
                                              • Erik talks about the idea of income disparity. (22:35)
                                              • Matt mentions that research shows that when the wife or the female partner in the relationship earns more money than the husband, divorce is more likely. (27:28)
                                              • Matt thinks that people get divorced for several reasons, but certainly finances and fighting about financial conflict as part of it. (37:42)
                                              • Erik shares that strong budgeting skills are what people find desirable, and only a few people can budget consistently and regularly. (39:37)
                                              • Matt explains financial infidelity. (47:26)
                                              • Erik mentions that they originally started doing Building Us podcast work in the premarital space. (51:04)
                                              • Erik shares that you shouldn’t run from conflict, lean into it because on the other side, you'll be much stronger. (54:37)
                                              • Key Quotes:

                                                • “We're very interested in how people communicate with each other on different topics, not just about money. So more recently, a lot of the guests that we've had on, have to do not just necessarily with relating to each other as a couple, but also relating to the community.” - Erik Garcia CFP® (3:55)
                                                • “We like to have a thoughtful conversation as it relates to relationships, whether it's a couple of relationships, parenting relationships, relationships to the community. And like you said, money is such a constant part of everything.” - Erik Garcia CFP® (5:33)
                                                • “Erik and I have really been on this kind of crusade to help the mental health community to be much more literate when it comes to personal finances. That's all part of the Building Us Podcast.” - Dr. Matt Morris LPC & LMFT (7:15)
                                                • “The amount of money that you have is not correlated to the kind of conflict that you're having, just money itself is correlated.” -  Dr. Matt Morris LPC & LMFT (8:19)
                                                • “I would just start with saying that the data is really clear that if you're in a relationship, if you're married, you will fight about money, that it's inevitable money, causes conflicts in a relationship.” - Dr. Matt Morris LPC & LMFT (15:33)
                                                • “If a couple is on the same page financially, then they feel more satisfied in their deliberations about money. If they feel more connected financially, there's a higher correlation, a higher likelihood that they'll also have a very satisfying sexual life.” -  Dr. Matt Morris LPC & LMFT (34:32)
                                                • “Money's like fuel to the fire, and that can exasperate, inflame, any other type of argument that you have.” - Erik Garcia CFP® (38:15)
                                                • Resources Mentioned:

                                                  • Erik Garcia, CFP®
                                                  • Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT
                                                  • Garcia Financial Group
                                                  • Dr. Matt Morris & Associates
                                                  • Jason Cass LinkedIn
                                                  • We Got Your Podcast
                                                  • 56 min
                                                  • Influence Your Way to Stronger Relationships with Brian Ahearn

                                                    What’s the difference between manipulation and ethical influencing? In this episode of the Building Us podcast, we are joined by Brian Ahearn, CPCU, CTM, CPT, CMCT, International Keynote Speaker, Author and Chief Influence Officer of Influence People, LLC, with hosts Erik Garcia, CFP® and Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT. Brian talks about the impacts of influence in today’s world and the three significant keys to ethically influence people.

                                                    Episode Highlights:

                                                    • Erik introduces Brian Ahearn. (2:38)
                                                    • Brian mentions that when it comes to influencing, he would typically ask the audience about their layman's definition of influence. (5:37)
                                                    • Brian shares that influence is about behavioral change. It's not enough in most instances that somebody thinks it's a good idea. (6:09)
                                                    • Brian mentions that he use influence and persuasion quite often interchangeably. (9:27)
                                                    • Brian shares that manipulation is trying to get people to do things without regard to their benefit. (10:06)
                                                    • Brian explains the three keys to ethically influencing people. (10:20)
                                                    • Brian mentions that we've moved in a society, that definitions always change over time, and nobody wants to be manipulated. (14:02)
                                                    • Brian thinks that the words that we use are incredibly significant. Because sometimes, those influence techniques can be weaponized against you. (14:29)
                                                    • Brian mentions a book entitled To Sell Is Human: The Surprising Truth About Moving Others, by Daniel Pink. (16:07)
                                                    • Brian thinks that principle has become a philosophy of how we can live our lives and how we can live our best lives. (18:43)
                                                    • Brian mentions that taking those principles and learning how to weave them into stories, are far more powerful than just systematically listing them out. (33:41)
                                                    • Brian shares that consistency describes the reality that most people feel an internal psychological pressure and an external social pressure to be consistent in what they say and what they do. (44:05)
                                                    • Brian shares that the key to the consistency principle is to stop telling people what to do. Instead, start asking. (45:44 )
                                                    • Key Quotes:

                                                      • “It comes down to that communication, how we communicate can make all the difference between somebody saying yes, and somebody saying no. So for me, that's the foundation that you need to set so that you understand going forward what everybody is talking about.” - Brian Ahearn
                                                      • “There are many people who do enjoy some success and sometimes, they do things wrong. But what I would say is they could probably have more success if they actually understood what the research said, and was strategically applying it.” - Brian Ahearn
                                                      • “It’s important for our happiness, that the better we understand how to communicate with people at home, our friends, family, neighbors, the easier it is for them to say yes to some of the things that we're asking of them, the less friction that we have.” - Brian Ahearn
                                                      • “Consistency starts with us. We want to feel good about ourselves by keeping our word. It's driven from within, but there is external pressure too. Because when we commit publicly, we don't want to look bad in the eyes of others. So, it's a powerful driver of human behavior, but the key is getting somebody to commit to us.” - Brian Ahearn
                                                      • Resources Mentioned:

                                                        • Erik Garcia, CFP®
                                                        • Garcia Financial Group
                                                        • Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT
                                                        • Dr. Matt Morris & Associates
                                                        • Brian Ahearn, CPCU, CTM, CPT, CMCT
                                                        • Influence People, LLC
                                                        • Influence PEOPLE: Powerful Everyday Opportunities to Persuade that are Lasting and Ethical
                                                        • To Sell Is Human: The Surprising Truth About Moving Others
                                                        • 1 hr 7 min
                                                        • The Comic Doc. How Humor Can Break Down Barriers and Strengthen Relationships with Dr. Vien Phommachanh

                                                          What is the significance of laughter in medicine? In this episode of the Building Us podcast, hosts Erik Garcia, CFP®, and Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT, are joined by Dr. Vien Phommachanh, Otolaryngologist (Ear, Nose, & Throat Doctor) by day and standup comedian by night in Southwest Florida. Dr. Vien talks about his careers in both medicine and comedy and how being a comedian has helped him to be a better physician. 

                                                          Episode Highlights:

                                                          • Erik introduces Dr. Vien Phommachanh. (5:08)
                                                          • Vien mentions that he’s the #1 one ranked Laotian ENT doctor-comedian in Southwest Florida. (5:53)
                                                          • Vien shares that Laos is the least industrialized country in Asia and also, the most bombed country in the history of the world. (8:01)
                                                          • Vien mentions that laughing is his mechanism to make himself a better person, and a better doctor. (12:12)
                                                          • Vien thinks that doctors have to be organic as people. (24:06)
                                                          • Vien mentions that there's a value in switching gears emotionally. Because if you’re feeling heavy on the serious side, it affects you. (24:57)
                                                          • Vien shares that if you're overly invested and emotional, you’re letting that side in. But if you're in a risky professional environment, you run the risk of being manipulated or hurt. (28:17)
                                                          • In Vien’s opinion, being organic, real, sincere, and invested in the well being of my patients, has given him an advantage in being a physician. (28:44)
                                                          • Vien mentions that if you’re looking for something to criticize somebody about, you're wasting your life. Get a job and be productive in society. (41:15)
                                                          • Vien shares that arts have always been a reflection of society, and society is always imperfect, there are points to laugh at, and points to change. (42:47)
                                                          • Vien shares a story about a comedian who made a joke immediately after the death of a celebrity. (42:46)
                                                          • Vien thinks that dad jokes are fundamental to the existence of fatherhood. (59:42)
                                                          • Key Quotes:

                                                            • “You can't laugh and worry at the same time. Like, it's physically impossible. So, with medicine, I'm always on the brink of crying. So, why not laugh it off? Laughing is close to crying in terms of its catharsis.” - Dr. Vien Phommachanh
                                                            • “I think now and then, just letting the human side come through reminds you that you're sincere, reminds people that you're there as a person, and as a physician, I think that’s a valuable tool, like being able to laugh at something.” - Dr. Vien Phommachanh
                                                            • “I don’t push a lot of buttons. I don't walk the line that much, there are comics that want to be edgy, they want to distinguish themselves, and a lot of people don't have an interesting story, they grew up in a culture that isn't that unique.” - Dr. Vien Phommachanh
                                                            • Resources Mentioned:

                                                              • Erik Garcia, CFP®
                                                              • Dr. Matt Morris, LPC, LMFT
                                                              • Garcia Financial Group
                                                              • Dr. Matt Morris & Associates
                                                              • Dr. Vien Phommachanh
                                                              • ComicDoc
                                                              • 1 hr 13 min

                                                              About Building Us

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                                                              Money impacts almost every aspect of our lives. It affects where we live, the car we drive, and how we manage it can even impact the quality of our relationships. Money is the thread that is woven…