In this episode of the Built Different Podcast, I sit down with my good friend and mentor Chris Bowers for a raw, high level conversation about what actually drives high performers and why most people stay stuck.
Chris opens up about the seasons of life and business and how he is constantly shedding skin to become the next version of himself. He explains how he views real estate like a football field with different roles, different levels, and different seasons, and why growth requires knowing when to evolve.
We also get real about intensity. Chris does not do surface level conversations, and he shares why urgency, conviction, and truth are at the core of how he leads even when it feels uncomfortable.
We dive deep into money and financial discipline, including Chris's life by design system where he tracks a few core metrics daily and uses them as a scoreboard to determine when to push harder. He breaks down the biggest financial mistakes he sees high earners make, including lifestyle creep, consumer debt, and chasing what looks good instead of what actually builds freedom. Chris also shares the story of how his mom completely transformed her life by getting out of debt, buying everything in cash, and teaching him money principles early, lessons that shaped how he saves, invests, and gives today.
We also talk about leadership and what separates people who want more from those who actually go get it. Chris explains how quickly he can spot winner versus victim energy, why excuses shut down momentum, and why proximity to the right people matters more than almost any strategy. This is a conversation about speed, accountability, honesty, and building a life your future self will thank you for.
If you are tired of feeling behind, stuck, or almost there, this episode will challenge you in the best way.
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Host: Avo Awanesian Instagram: @avosellsaz
Guest Info
Guest: Chris Bowers Instagram: @chrisbowers_realestate