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In our latest episode, Greg and Matias engage in an insightful discussion with Dr. Bryan Roth, the Michael Hooker Distinguished Professor of Pharmacology at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill School of Medicine, and the founder of the Roth Lab.
Dr. Roth’s lab is on the cutting edge of researching the interaction between brain cell receptors and compounds like LSD and psilocybin. Their findings have the potential to revolutionize the treatment of psychiatric disorders, potentially creating new forms of psychedelics that offer the therapeutic benefits without hallucinations or other side effects.
In this episode, we discuss (1) the therapeutic effects of psychedelic and non-hallucinatory compounds, (2) the transition from animal model studies to human trials and (3) the journey of turning deep academic research into viable commercial entities.
Credits:
Created by Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
Host: Matias Serebrinsky & Greg Kubin
Produced by Jonathan A. Davis, Nico V. Rey & Caitlin Ner
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Theme music by Dorian Love
Additional Music: Distant Daze by Zack Frank
In this week's episode, Greg and Matias take a moment to reflect on the opportunities and challenges they have faced while building the PsyMed Ventures syndicate and venture capital fund since starting the Business Trip podcast in 2020. Their ultimate goal is to support founders who are building ethical businesses in frontier mental health technologies with the aim of ending the suffering caused by mental illnesses. This conversation offers an honest insight into raising and deploying a venture capital fund as an emerging manager.
Credits:
Created by Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
Host: Matias Serebrinsky & Greg Kubin
Produced by Jonathan A. Davis, Nico V. Rey & Caitlin Ner
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Theme music by Dorian Love
Additional Music: Distant Daze by Zack Frank
In this week’s episode, Greg and Matias chat with Josh Hardman, the founder of Psychedelic Alpha.
Josh is a leading writer and founder at Psychedelic Alpha, an online resource, newsletter, and community covering the intersection of psychedelics and business. He regularly collaborates and writes with experts in the psychedelic field including entrepreneurs, academic researchers, non-profits, and more to provide a comprehensive understanding of the latest developments in the industry. Psychedelic Alpha recently released Psychedelics 2022: A Year in Review to comment on and analyze the industry across research, funding, and policy.
Credits:
Created by Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
Host: Matias Serebrinsky & Greg Kubin
Produced by Jonathan A. Davis, Zack Frank, & Caitlin Ner
Find us at businesstrip.fm and psymed.ventures
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Theme music by Dorian Love
Additional Music: Distant Daze by Zack Frank
In this week’s special episode, Matias chats with Dr. Rachel Yehuda and Zach Haigney at Soho House in New York City. This is part 2 of a moderated panel recorded in front of a live audience, with part 1 released in June 2022.
Dr. Yehuda has spent the last 30 years doing research on PTSD and trauma and is leading the MDMA-assisted therapy research at the US Veterans Affairs Medical Center and serves as Director at the Mental Health at the James J. Peters VA Medical Center. She is also the Director of the Center for Psychedelic Psychotherapy and Trauma Research at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai Hospital and Professor of Psychiatry and Neuroscience. Zach Haigney writes the Trip Report by Beckley Waves, a newsletter about the science, policy, and business of psychedelics.
Credits:
Created by Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
Host: Matias Serebrinsky & Greg Kubin
Produced by Jonathan A. Davis, Zack Frank, & Caitlin Ner
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Theme music by Dorian Love
Additional Music: Distant Daze by Zack Frank
This episode shares the story of Tactogen, a drug development company making new chemical entities inspired by MDMA. Co-founder Matt Baggott has been fascinated by MDMA and has studied it for 30 years. And while he believes that MDMA can be effective as a therapeutic, his company is developing an MDMA analogue that is designed to be gentler and safer, with the potential to be administered in an at-home setting.
Links:
Tactogen WeFunder: https://wefunder.com/tactogen
Credits:
Created by Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
Host: Matias Serebrinsky
Produced by Jonathan A. Davis & Zack Frank
Find us at businesstrip.fm
Follow us on Instagram and Twitter!
Theme music by Dorian Love
Additional Music:
Distant Daze by Zack Frank
In this new episode of Business Trip, we interview one of the first clinics to offer a protocol that includes TMS (transcranial magnetic stimulation) and ketamine infusion.
TMS is a non-invasive procedure that sends electric currents to specific regions in the brain, including areas linked to depression. It's FDA approved and has been gaining adoption as clinical studies demonstrate safety and efficacy in treating mood disorders.
So why the combination? TMS takes a local approach while ketamine stimulates global brain communication, according to Scenic City Neurotherapy founder Charles Miller. There's little data about the combination of TMS with ketamine, making this conversation quite interesting as Miller shares the protocol, science, costs, and treatment outcomes.
Credits:
Created by Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
Host: Matias Serebrinsky
Produced by Jonathan A. Davis & Zack Frank
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Theme music by Dorian Love
Additional Music:
Distant Daze by Zack Frank
In this week's episode, we chat with Christian Angermayer. Christian co-founded atai Life Sciences and was an early investor in Compass Pathways -- two of the first companies commercializing psychedelic medicine. Christian also launched a fund dedicated to mental and neurological health called re:Mind, is an investor through his family office Apeiron, and co-founded two longevity biotech companies.
Credits:
Created by Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
Host: Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
Produced by Jonathan A. Davis & Zack Frank
Find us at businesstrip.fm
Follow us on Instagram and Twitter!
Theme music by Dorian Love
Additional Music:
Distant Daze by Zack Frank
In this week’s episode, we chat with Melissa Stangl, co-founder of Soltara Healing Center. Soltara is an ayahuasca retreat center whose ceremonies are lead by Shipibo healers, with locations in Peru and Costa Rica. The Shipibo people are from the Peruvian Amazon and are part of a tradition that has been drinking Ayahuasca for healing and spiritual purposes for thousands of years. In their ceremonies, the Shipibo serve ayahuasca and sing songs, called Icaros, which guide the healing process and journey.
Credits:
Created by Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
Host: Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
Produced by Jonathan A. Davis & Zack Frank
Find us at businesstrip.fm
Follow us on Instagram and Twitter!
Theme music by Dorian Love
Additional Music:
Distant Daze by Zack Frank
This is final episode in our 3-part series on microdosing that explores the science, history, and clinical applications.
In this episode, we discuss the path to FDA approval for microdosing. We chat with the chief medical officers from Diamond Therapeutics and MindMed about their microdosing clinical programs. Diamond's program uses synthetic psilocybin and is focused on anxiety disorders. Meanwhile, MindMed is focused using low doses of LSD to treat adult ADHD. Our guests are Dr. Michael McDonnell (Diamond Therapeutics) and Dr. Dan Karlin (MindMed).
In case you missed it: In part 1, we interviewed psychedelic researcher James Fadiman about the fundamentals of microdosing. In part 2, we discuss placebo effect and the results of a self-blinded placebo-controlled study with Balázs Szigeti from the Centre for Psychedelic Research at Imperial College London.
Disclaimer: This is not investment advice and is for information and educational purposes only.
Credits:
Created by Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
Host: Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
Produced by Jonathan A. Davis & Zack Frank
Find us at businesstrip.fm
Follow us on Instagram and Twitter!
Theme music by Dorian Love
Additional Music:
Distant Daze by Zack Frank
Created by Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
Host: Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
Produced by Jonathan A. Davis & Zack Frank
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Business Trip explores the frontiers of brain and mental health through conversations with founders, investors, and researchers at the intersection of neuroscience and technology.

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