In this episode, David is joined by Carol Sanford who is a prolific bestselling author. Her last book was number one for 90 days. She is also a business educator and thought leader as well as the presenter of the podcast, Business Second Opinion.
David asks Carol to explain what her new book Indirect Work is all about. Her explanation includes Einstein and the importance of taking a quantum view rather than a billiard ball approach. She explains why we all need to explore and question things and consider adopting living system frameworks and learning to understand our essence.
KEY TAKEAWAYS
- Einstein says most people take a Newtonian view of the world. Carol explains what that is and why it is such a harmful approach.
- Working indirectly, influencing people over time is what changes their perception and eventually how they act.
- Our role is to help others to observe and learn for themselves, to evolve their thinking.
- Pause and take time to question and test the ideas you are presented with.
- Notice what you are thinking and what others are thinking. Find out where it comes from, what it really means.
- We are all entangled. If you do harm in the world, you are negatively affecting yourself as well as others.
- If you're going to try being about change, don't use the same way of thinking that caused the problem you're working on
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BEST MOMENTS
‘Einstein said we have to move to a world that is quantum which he equates to a matrix…you have to work indirectly….’
‘if you really, really, really want to change climate problems, democracy and diversity, inclusion or racial justice, the more you work on those directly, the more you don't have control,’
‘Give up that idea that you're in charge, and all you do is build the capability of people.’
‘What I do is teach people how to examine ideas, how to examine sources.’
EPISODE RESOURCES
Website: https://carolsanford.com/
Podcast: https://carolsanford.com/business-second-opinion/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/carolsanfordauthor
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/carol-sanford/0/42/ba3
Twitter: https://twitter.com/carolsanford
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/carolsanford42
Books: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Carol-Sanford/e/B00427W9JC?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_fkmr0_1&qid=1669032919&sr=8-1-fkmr0
GUEST BIO
Carol Sanford is an award-winning business educator, Summit Producer, podcaster, and author. She is consistently recognized thought leader working side by side with Fortune 500 and new economy executives in designing and leading systemic business change and design. Through her university and in-house educational offerings, global speaking platforms, multi-award-winning books, and human development work, Carol works with executive leaders who see the possibility to change the nature of work through developing people and work systems that ignite motivation everywhere. For four decades, Carol has worked with great leaders of successful businesses such as Google, DuPont, Intel, P&G, and Seventh Generation, educating them to develop their people and ensure a continuous stream of innovation that continually deliver extraordinary results.
Carol is the author of The Regenerative Business, The Responsible Entrepreneur, The Responsible Business, and No More Feedback: Cultivate Consciousness at Work. Her books have won over 15 awards so far and are required reading at leading business and management schools including Harvard, Stanford, Haas Berkeley and MIT. Carol also partners with producing Executive Education through Babson College, Kaospilot in Denmark and University of Washington, Bothell, WA, and The Lewis Institute at Babson. For 40 years she’s collaborated with clients to develop people to realize their inherent capabilities. Google’s Innovation Lab uses her Responsible Business Framework. Learn more at CarolSanford.com and the Business Second Opinion podcast.
ABOUT THE SHOW
People with purpose make a difference. Imagine a world where more people can just get their purpose out of them, into a plan and then actually make it happen. What a world that would be - People everywhere finding meaning and harnessing that to bring inspiration and energy to each and every day, changing lives for the better. But no one ever achieved anything on their own - we all have something unique to bring and that means we all have to play our part - if we want to go far we have to go together and lead or serve towards a vision of the world we want to see. Everyone has a story to tell, and this show is where these stories come to life.
ABOUT THE HOST
David Roberts is a highly regarded CEO, mentor, and investor with 30 years of experience across multiple sectors. As an intrapreneur and entrepreneur David has bought, grown, started and sold several businesses, working with values-driven start-ups, award-winning SMEs, and multinational corporations on strategies for service excellence, leadership, and profitable growth. David’s passion is for purpose and creating an environment where everyone can succeed, through building teams that get things done, execute on their mission with passion, deliver exceptional service and really make a difference.
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