But Also with Michael and Asher

Jason Selvig of The Good Liars joins Michael and Asher to compare basketball injuries, then reports from the Trump rallies on what really drove the midterm blue wave. Plus: Trump’s inevitable Vegas residency, a simulation theory debate that sends Michael to hell, and a full-throated case for meditation.

00:00:00 Welcome Jason Selvig of The Good Liars
00:00:22 Playing through pain
00:04:01 Broken elbow at Cooper Park
00:06:24 Thrown off Psycho T's back
00:08:57 Jason's crooked nose (thanks, Bulldog)
00:12:36 Split eyelids and the weakest injury story
00:16:36 The midterms, and a better segue
00:17:10 How basketball created The Good Liars
00:18:23 What Jason heard at the rallies
00:20:12 Would we take Kalshi money?
00:23:49 Data centers and dystopian subway ads
00:25:30 Did the blue wave happen for the right reasons?
00:28:51 Was it all gas prices?
00:32:20 What The Good Liars actually do
00:35:34 Biden 2028 (you've been Good Lied)
00:37:07 Picking a 2028 nominee
00:40:43 Bad candidates and Herschel Walker
00:46:29 Prediction: Trump's Vegas residency
00:49:51 "We're here for the show"
00:51:15 Nicki Minaj
00:52:01 Are rallies still fun?
00:54:39 Who runs next?
00:57:29 When did politics get this stupid?
01:01:30 Is this helping? Soul off, soul on
01:06:11 TikTok thieves and AI fakes
01:11:13 The last night of the world
01:13:40 Simulation theory gets heated
01:21:32 Trump as the main character
01:26:07 Red pill or blue pill?
01:28:54 Asher's contacts and asymmetrical faces
01:30:59 Jason needs glasses
01:35:54 Full-throated endorsement: meditation
01:40:54 Vipassana and silent retreats
01:42:31 Outro

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Jenny Hagel (Late Night with Seth Meyers, Jenny Hagel Gives Advice) joins Michael and Asher to talk Instagram algorithms, attachment theory (round 2!), and first-grade soccer in Puerto Rico.

00:00:00 Cold open
00:00:30 Welcome Jenny Hagel
00:00:50 NYC's weirdly specific high schools (Harbor School)
00:03:55 Learning "facts" from Instagram
00:05:35 Why lesbians love attachment theory
00:06:35 Jenny Hagel Gives Advice (the live show)
00:09:25 What's in your algorithm?
00:13:10 Asher's pull-up demo
00:16:05 News fatigue and working at Late Night
00:20:10 Screen time limits and tricks for self-control
00:23:00 Flossing, gum grafts and horsehair toothbrushes
00:28:00 What does a late night writer actually do all day?
00:30:20 Never playing sports as a kid
00:33:35 First grade soccer and growing up Puerto Rican
00:38:00 Our parents and how we parent
00:41:15 Cool things we learned on Instagram (pitching, dribbling)
00:44:10 The Capeman and In the Heights
00:46:10 "If I win the lottery, you'll never see me again"
00:53:10 The hedonic treadmill
00:54:45 The Goodnight Moon fortune
00:59:10 It's Raining Fish and Late Night Trash
01:04:45 Michael doesn't follow anyone on Instagram
01:09:10 What's the point of what you do?
01:12:40 Jokes Seth Can't Tell
01:14:40 Full-Throated Endorsement: How to Hide an Empire
01:20:45 Wrap-up

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Margaret Hoover, host of Firing Line on PBS, joins Michael and Asher to talk about working Hurricane Katrina from inside the Bush White House, how the Republican Party went off the rails, and confronting Bill O'Reilly on her own show.

00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:18 Giuliani Water and Kidney Stones
00:04:24 Morphine, Propofol, and Not Sleeping
00:09:29 Wikipedia Pages and Family Fact Checks
00:11:56 Security Clearance and Homeland Security
00:14:09 Hurricane Katrina from the White House
00:19:35 Herbert Hoover's Theory of Government
00:24:29 Great-Grandpa Hoover and Leaving the GOP
00:26:29 How the Bush White House Went Off the Rails
00:32:01 Understanding Evangelical Voters
00:34:55 Trump-Voting Family and Relatable Politicians
00:40:32 Bill O'Reilly and the Disgraced Men's Corner
00:46:08 Interviewing Marjorie Taylor Greene
00:49:43 Thom Tillis and the King's New Clothes
00:55:08 Fixing Congress and Running for Office
00:59:15 Grief, Family, and Slowing Down
01:03:13 Quirky New York and Colorado Sports
01:06:42 Competitive Swimming
01:11:41 TV, Books, and Endless Organizing
01:18:03 Recommendation: Ted Lasso Season 4
01:22:08 Outro

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Chloe Troast (Furious, SNL) joins Michael and Asher to talk about being the new kid at SNL, small planes, and her only shopping experience at Paragon Sports. Plus, a full-throated endorsement of a tiny ice cream maker.

00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:14 Being the New Kid at SNL
00:00:42 Paragon Sports
00:04:22 The Swimming Situationship
00:11:57 Chloe's Watery Death Wish
00:12:32 Was JFK Jr Asking For It?
00:19:04 Insulting Doppelgangers
00:25:30 Think About A Phone...
00:28:32 Chloe Troast, Former Painting Class Model
00:32:54 Why Asher Draws
00:34:40 Getting Recognized In Public
00:43:02 Musical Theater Kid Alert
00:47:33 Minored in Middle Eastern Studies
00:52:44 Michael Tutored Saida
00:55:04 Being the New Kid at SNL
01:00:30 Leaving SNL
01:10:43 Chloe in Furious
01:14:25 Full Throated Endorsement: Tiny Ice Cream Maker

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Eliana Kwartler (Late Show with Stephen Colbert) is the guest Asher and Michael thought they had to prepare the least for. We chat attachment theory, the school essay she wrote about 9/11, and what (if anything) she misses about dating men. 

00:00:00 Cold Open

00:00:21 Welcome Eliana Kwartler

00:01:14 Childhood Nicknames

00:03:06 Bullied, or the Bully?

00:09:57 Attachment Theory and "Attached"

00:16:05 Guessing Everyone's Attachment Style

00:20:31 Should Parents Control the Curriculum?

00:25:50 Philosophy Class: Turtles All the Way Down

00:29:29 Mary Oliver's "The Journey," From Memory

00:36:19 Reciting The Raven and Hamlet

00:38:07 Asher's Thousand Guinea Pigs

00:41:03 The Aunt Who Burned Down the House

00:43:30 Eliana's 9/11 Essay at Age Seven

00:46:52 Living Through History

00:50:17 Low Rise, Wide Leg

00:54:33 Where Does the Butt Crack Go?

00:59:07 Michael's Abu Dhabi Romper

01:01:25 Getting Naked in Restaurant Bathrooms

01:07:37 Anything Good About Dating Men?

01:12:50 Are Marvel Movies Straight Man Coded?

01:22:00 Full-Throated Endorsement: Custom Earplugs

01:27:03 Outro

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Paul Dinello (Strangers with Candy, Exit 57) stops by to discuss lifting calves, Psycho-Biddy films, and the Beatles Vs Bob Dylan. 

00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:30 Intro and Housekeeping
00:01:32 Rocco vs. the Inflatable Chef
00:04:03 Can Alley: When Annoying Noises Become Funny
00:08:04 Rocco at The Late Show
00:10:35 Life After The Late Show
00:12:41 The Lindsay Lohan Oreo Commercial
00:16:04 Streaming Ads and the Pause Ad
00:19:44 Paul's Wikipedia Quote
00:22:38 Pull-Up Showdown
00:27:30 Getting Older and Forgetting Names
00:31:44 "I Have to Check With My Wife"
00:35:44 Milo and the Calf
00:40:33 The Milking Farm
00:43:37 Beatles vs. Dylan
00:47:16 Lovely Rita, Meter Maid
00:49:22 Marcus Aurelius' Meditations
00:54:31 Confidence
00:59:25 Fear of Failure and Writing to Deadline
01:02:14 Writing vs. Performing and the Joy of Collaboration
01:06:38 Full Throated Endorsement: Psycho-Biddy Movies
01:12:41 Outro

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Comedian Liza Treyger (Survival of the Thickest) joins Michael and Asher to talk about getting kicked by a stunt horse and which cartoon characters audiences most want to sleep with. 

00:00:00 Cold Open
00:00:22 Welcome Liza Treyger
00:00:35 The Super on the Ladder
00:03:48 Hamptons Birthday Weekend
00:05:31 Heads Up, Wavelength, and Game Night
00:09:28 Birthday Dinner and the Best Guinness in NYC
00:12:18 Dance Nights and the Dreaded Dance Circle
00:16:48 Cigarette Phases 
00:19:08 Spice Girls Birthday
00:20:45 Chicago on Broadway and the Best Year Ever
00:23:14 Arthur Chains, Labubus, and Cute Dogs
00:27:10 Dogs conversation continued from earlier episodes
00:29:05 Cartoon Crushes
00:32:18 Getting Kicked by a Stunt Horse
00:35:00 Liza vs. the AI Guys
00:37:14 AI at the Doctor's Office
00:40:17 Will AI Replace Art?
00:48:46 Deleted Reviews
00:51:54 Sponsored Results, Surveillance Pricing, and Self-Checkout
00:57:43 The Regulars
01:00:50 Full-Throated Endorsement: Reading Books
01:08:17 Backgammon with Po

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Comedian George Civeris (StraightioLab, A Sense of Urgency) joins Michael and Asher to talk chronic health mysteries, hair loss science, and why Materialists secretly rules. 

00:00 Cold Open
00:28 Welcome George
01:11 Minoxidil and Family Hair Genetics
02:54 George's Laundry List of Medical Problems
06:45 Hair Transplants, Bad Plugs, and Political Bald Spots
16:06 Hair Systems and the Patreon GoFundMe
20:00 Materialists vs Past Lives
22:55 Mortal Kombat 2 and the Case for Fun Bad Movies
26:41 Ranking the Best Picture Noms Gay to Straight
30:20 Prescreening Movies for Mom
32:01 Whatever Happened to Dodgeball Era Comedy
35:07 Is Game Night a Straight Movie?
38:43 The Gay Game Night Remake and Orchard Project Memories
41:56 George's Writer Not Actor Origin Story
43:08 Respecting Acting as a Craft
48:27 Touring Chaos: Green Rooms and Sound Checks
53:54 Segments, Episode Length, and Favorite Podcasts
1:01:46 Full Throated vs Mid Throated Endorsements
1:03:19 Mid Throat Endorsements: Drinks, Lotion, and Microplastics
1:12:47 Structured Hangouts vs Just Vibing
1:14:19 George's Full Throated Endorsement: Standup Specials
1:17:47 Outro

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Harvey Guillén (What We Do in the Shadows, Rocky Horror on Broadway) joins Michael and Asher for a real romp.  They alo get into rat sympathy, learning Wicked in Japanese, a spider infested computer, and Harvey's Netflix true crime podcast Killer Stories.

00:00 Cold Open
00:31 Housekeeping & Show Plugs
01:37 Meet Harvey Guillén
02:17 Covid on Watch What Happens Live
03:13 Broadway Understudies & Swings
06:04 Musical Theater School Stories
08:26 Central Park Breakdancers & Talent vs. Tenacity
11:04 Strict School Rules & the Late Policy
18:11 Aikido Spanking Stories
21:04 First Gig: Moving to Japan
27:22 Covid on Set with Susan Sarandon
32:42 Moving to NYC, LA, and Landing "Huge"
38:28 Broadway: The Hardest Job & Rocky Horror
41:44 The "You Look Great" Backhanded Compliment
47:11 If You Give a Mouse a Cookie & Rat Sympathy
52:11 The Spider Infested Computer
54:54 Do Flies Wash Their Hands?
56:15 The Orphan Sloth Video & Sherie Rene Scott
60:24 What's Next: Action Roles on Shadows
62:28 Killer Stories: Harvey's True Crime Podcast
66:41 Is New York Actually Scary?
72:00 Full Throated Endorsement: Seafood Boil

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Rachel Abrams (co-host of The Daily) joins the podcast to finally settle the debate: was E.T. slimy or dry? She also talks about her journey to becoming a host of The Daily, and gives a full-throated endorsement of the chicken at Medieval Times.

00:00:00 Cold Open: The Rocky Raccoon Weather Bit
00:00:28 Welcome to But Also, With Guest Rachel Abrams
00:01:03 Rachel's 17 Years in Journalism, From Variety to the Times
00:04:12 The Moonves Investigation and the Source Who Lost Everything
00:06:49 How Rachel Became a Host of The Daily
00:08:43 Michael's Wife Thinks Rachel Hosts The Daily Show
00:10:58 The Fake 49ers Player Scammer
00:12:18 Only Recognized as "Michael Barbaro"
00:14:38 The Craft of Sounding Natural on the Radio
00:19:10 Unconventional Paths Into the New York Times
00:23:18 Ira Glass's Advice on Leaning Into Humor
00:25:22 Finding Humor in Dark and Serious Stories
00:32:48 The Philosophy of Comedy and Truth
00:34:10 Segment: The Daily Quiz
00:40:36 Google Thinks Rachel Abrams Is Dead
00:41:15 Party Tricks: Presidents and Days of the Week
00:50:17 Rachel's Childhood Radio Career
00:52:33 Life After Late Night and Chasing Comedy Jobs
00:58:35 Ayahuasca, MDMA, and Psychedelic Confessions
01:04:15 Full Throated Endorsement: Medieval Times Chicken
01:10:37 Was E.T. Wet or Dry? The Spielberg Story
01:13:45 Outro

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