In this episode, the team breaks down the real-world differences between a Casualty Collection Point (CCP) and an Ambulance Exchange Point (AEP), why they matter, and how to set them up so you save more lives in an active shooter or mass casualty event.​

Episode 120 dives into working in the warm zone and explains how CCPs and AEPs function together to move victims rapidly from point of injury to definitive care, while maintaining responder safety. The team discusses who should establish the CCP, how law enforcement Contact Teams drive early triage and security, and why CCPs are not just a “medical” job.​

You’ll hear practical tactics on:

• Defining and securing a CCP in the warm zone so Rescue Task Forces can work safely​
• What makes an AEP different from a traditional MCI loading zone​
• Prioritizing which “reds” go first and using medical judgment beyond simple triage tags​
• Matching patient loads to available medics without overwhelming the ambulance crew​
• Coordinating tactical, triage, and transport to avoid fatal delays in getting ambulances to the AEP​

Whether you’re law enforcement, fire, EMS, or an incident commander, this episode will help you visualize how CCPs and AEPs should work on your next high-threat incident.

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On April 17, 2025, a normal college day suddenly turned into a crisis when an active shooter appeared on campus, and Hope—a senior at Florida State University—was right in the middle of it. She talks about what it was really like: hearing sirens, getting lockdown alerts, and dealing with fear, confusion, and the challenge of keeping calm when nobody knew what was happening. In this powerful and emotional interview, Hope describes barricading the classroom, texting her parents, and relying on each other when official instructions seemed confusing and social media added to the panic. For four hours, Hope and her classmates stuck together, their emotions swinging from worry to courage. This video isn’t just about a scary event—it’s about the real people who lived through it, what schools can do to prepare, and why talking about tough moments matters. If you want to know what facing the unimaginable is really like, and how teamwork and family can help you get through anything, don’t miss this story. It’s gripping, heartfelt, and a sobering look at resilience, community, and the lessons learned from tragedy.  

Viewer Discretion Advised: This episode contains an unfiltered discussion about a real campus emergency and may not be suitable for younger viewers. There is no graphic or gory content, but the conversation includes emotional and mature themes related to safety and trauma. If you’re a parent, we encourage you to watch this episode together with your child — it’s an important, honest look at how students experience and process difficult events.

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Today’s episode tackles the question How can first responders get real practice with active shooter incident management—when true incidents are (thankfully) rare in a career? Our panel explores practical strategies for integrating incident management skills into everyday calls and routine events—so you're always prepared, even if you only see a "big one" once in your career.

Key highlights:

• Discover how to build skills by applying active shooter incident management techniques during regular calls (like missing persons, single-patient shootings, or barricaded suspect events).
• Learn why adopting consistent terminology and roles on low-risk or special event calls (like fairs or football games) builds strong incident command habits.
• Hear examples of leveraging staging, tactical roles, and unified command in day-to-day operations—on both fire/EMS and law enforcement sides.
• Find out how these daily practices help responders break down silos, develop relationships, identify training gaps, and get more comfortable with critical incident management tools.
• Tips on building relationships, practicing rapid triage, and involving all agencies in pre-planning for special events.

Even if you respond to routine incidents or planned gatherings, there are constant opportunities to use and strengthen your active shooter response skills. This episode is packed with real-world advice, stories, and actionable ideas you can put to work immediately!

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What happens to the uninjured survivors after an active shooter or mass casualty event? In Episode 117 of the Active Shooter Incident Management podcast, host Bill Godfrey and his team of instructors from the National Center for Integrated Emergency Response dive into the complex challenges faced by responders when managing large crowds of uninjured survivors at outdoor and indoor venues.

This discussion covers:

• Immediate actions law enforcement and EMS must take with panicked, fleeing crowds
• Tactics for identifying witnesses, potential victims, and bystanders—and why separating these groups is crucial
• The importance of security, safe holding areas, and the real-life logistics of "corralling" hundreds of people
• How to use bystanders and uninjured family members to assist with patient care when resources are scarce
• Differences in managing survivors at outdoor parks versus indoor sites like courthouses or schools
• Why survivors must be shielded not just from physical threats, but also from re-traumatization and the media
• The power of language: why calling people "survivors" (not "victims") aids recovery and resilience
• Gaps in current law enforcement training and practical suggestions for improvement

If you're responsible for public safety, emergency preparedness, or support roles during critical incidents—or you want to understand the unseen aspects that make survivor management so difficult—this episode delivers real-world advice, examples, and compassionate strategies for one of the most overlooked elements of crisis response.

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Emergency response agencies tend to spend much more time on tactics training—like room clearing or forming rescue teams—than on incident management, which focuses on organizing resources and ensuring everyone works together effectively. The podcast argues that both are equally important and should be integrated, suggesting agencies use small, realistic joint drills with law enforcement, fire, and EMS to build communication skills, clarify roles, and improve overall incident outcomes, rather than keeping these trainings separate or overly complicated.

We dive deep into:

• The differences and importance of tactics vs. incident management training for law enforcement, fire, and EMS.
• Why agencies often train in silos and how this can leave critical communication and coordination gaps.
• The need for cross-training—why everyone, from street patrol to senior leadership, should understand both tactical skills and incident management.
• Practical ways to integrate incident management into everyday tactical drills, including micro-trainings, roll call scenarios, and low-cost, high-impact joint exercises.
• How better collaboration between law enforcement and fire/EMS during training leads to more effective real-world responses.
• Overcoming common barriers like scheduling, resource constraints, and leadership buy-in.

Whether you’re a first responder, trainer, or agency leader, this episode is packed with actionable insights on building a more resilient, better-prepared team. Don’t wait for a crisis to reveal your training gaps—learn how to bridge them now!

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Episode 115 of the Active Shooter Incident Management Podcast focuses on how first responders deal with active shooter threats that happen outdoors, like at concerts, fairs, parks, or theme parks. The host, Bill Godfrey, talks with experts from law enforcement and fire/EMS about what makes these outdoor incidents different and more challenging than those inside buildings.

Main Points:

• Outdoor active shooter events are harder to manage because there is less cover and the area is much bigger. Responders have to think about where crowds gather, how big the crowd might be, and where an attacker could strike. Planning ahead is very important, including working with venue staff and making sure everyone knows the emergency plan.
• The team discusses the difficulties of providing cover in outdoor environments that face threats like vehicle ramming or IEDs, highlighting the importance of area denial, physical barriers (such as movable trucks or fire trucks), and deploying quick reaction forces.
• For fire and EMS, it’s important to figure out how ambulances and rescue teams can get in and out quickly, especially if roads are blocked. They need to work closely with police to make sure they can reach injured people quickly. Pre-planning and walkthroughs with all agencies help everyone be ready.
• Communication between police, fire, EMS, and event staff is critical. Different agencies sometimes use the same words to mean different things, so misunderstandings in terminology can lead to confusion during a crisis. Regular joint training and briefings are recommended
• If an attack happens at a place that wasn’t planned for in advance, like a busy park, it’s even more difficult. Officers have to find the attacker quickly in a large, open space with lots of people running around. Most police officers who get hurt in these situations are injured outside, often while approaching the scene.
• When the shooting stops and a "warm zone" is established, RTFs must move in quickly to treat and evacuate victims, relying on law enforcement for security. Even if they don’t know if the attacker is still there, they have to act quickly because “known bleeding doesn’t stop for unknown threats.” The goal is to save lives as fast as possible, even when the threat location is uncertain.

In summary, while the fundamental response process remains the same, outdoor active shooter incidents require more complex planning and better communication, coordination, and adaptability because of increased exposure and unpredictability. 

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In this episode, our hosts dive into what truly defines an "active threat," focusing on scenarios like active shooter events and the critical decisions first responders must make in real time. They discuss how to recognize when a threat is still actively causing harm versus when the situation shifts and responders need to quickly transition from pursuing the attacker to providing lifesaving care to victims.

The conversation highlights the importance of situational awareness, explaining that if responders continue searching for a threat after the danger has passed, it can delay medical help and cost lives. The episode also covers the challenges law enforcement faces in recognizing these transition points, the impact of training and communication, and why understanding the difference between an active threat and a cleared scene is crucial for saving lives during high-stress incidents

Key Points Covered

• Defining “Active” in Active Threats
  The episode explores what it truly means for a threat to be “active,” emphasizing that it’s not just about someone having committed violence, but whether there is ongoing danger—such as an attacker still actively causing harm.
• Transition from Active Threat to Rescue Mode
  The team discusses the critical moment when responders must shift focus: when the immediate threat is no longer present, the priority must move from neutralizing the attacker to rescuing and treating the injured.
• Stimulus and Response
  Responders are trained to move rapidly toward the source of danger (the “stimulus”), bypassing injured victims if necessary to stop the threat. Once there’s no longer evidence of active killing, responders must quickly transition to rescue operations.
• Operational Indicators
  A practical tip: if responders are moving past doorways and not stopping, they’re still in “active threat” mode. When they begin clearing rooms or pausing at doors, it’s often a sign the threat is no longer active, and priorities should shift accordingly.
• The Importance of Communication and Manpower
  The episode highlights the need for clear communication and sufficient resources. Multiple teams may be required to handle both threat neutralization and rescue at the same time, depending on manpower.
• Mindset Shift for Law Enforcement
  The hosts stress the importance of changing the traditional law enforcement mindset—recognizing that once the active killing stops, saving lives through rapid rescue becomes just as urgent as stopping the attacker.

Why This Matters

Understanding what constitutes an “active threat” is crucial for first responders, as it directly impacts how they prioritize their actions during critical incidents. The episode provides actionable insights for law enforcement, fire, and EMS professionals to improve response effectiveness and save more lives.

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In today’s episode our panel dives into the essential mission for all responders—law enforcement, fire, and EMS—when confronting an active shooter event. The discussion centers on understanding and executing the three core priorities that define a successful response:

1. Deal with the Active Threat

• The immediate mission for law enforcement is to neutralize the threat—stop the shooter and end the active killing. This requires rapid assessment of where the threat is, what’s driving it, and decisive action to intervene.

2. Rescue the Injured

• Once the active threat is under control, the focus must shift quickly to rescuing and treating the wounded. Stopping the killing and stopping the dying are inseparable: you need to save every life possible by getting medical care to victims as soon as possible. This phase requires strong integration and communication between law enforcement and fire/EMS, often through rescue task forces entering warm zones.

3. Clear and Secure the Scene

• The third priority is to clear the facility to ensure there are no further threats and to locate any additional victims. This involves methodically searching the area, setting up casualty collection points, and preparing for potential secondary threats. These priorities are interconnected and often need to be addressed simultaneously, depending on available resources.

Key Insights:

• Success isn’t just about apprehending the suspect; it’s about saving lives and restoring safety as quickly as possible.
• Responders must constantly ask, “What is the threat to life right now?”—is it the shooter or is it the clock?
• The ability to “shift gears” between priorities and to work as an integrated team is critical. Law enforcement, fire, and EMS must train together and understand each other’s roles to ensure seamless operations.

Takeaway:
Every responder at an active shooter event must understand that the mission is not just a single task but a coordinated effort to stop the threat, save the injured, and secure the scene. Understanding these priorities, and the ability to adapt as the situation evolves, is crucial for protecting lives and ensuring the best possible outcome for everyone involved.

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Today’s episode takes a close look at how police, fire, and EMS come together to form Rescue Task Forces (RTFs) and why true interagency teamwork is essential for saving lives during high-risk incidents. The episode emphasizes that successful RTF deployment depends on much more than just assembling personnel; it requires careful pre-deployment briefings, clear communication about roles and expectations, and a unified approach to movement and safety as the team enters potentially dangerous environments.

Before deploying, RTF members -comprised of both law enforcement officers and fire/EMS personnel – must understand who is responsible for medical decisions and who controls team movement. Law enforcement provides security and directs the team's movement, while medical personnel focus on triage and patient care; both elements must trust each other and communicate constantly to adapt to changing threats and patient needs.

The episode also highlights the importance of sequencing and structure. RTFs are not sent in until law enforcement has secured a "warm zone" or "warm pocket," and tactical, triage, and transport supervisors are working side by side to manage resources and information flow. This integrated approach ensures that teams can move quickly and safely, avoid confusion, and maximize the number of lives saved. The discussion makes clear that practicing these skills and building relationships in non-crisis settings is crucial, so that when a real emergency happens, the team operates as a cohesive unit.

Ultimately, "RTF Deployment Teamwork" demonstrates that effective teamwork-built on communication, trust, and shared objectives-directly impacts the speed and safety of casualty care and evacuation during critical incidents. The episode serves as a practical guide for first responders and agencies seeking to improve their coordinated response to complex emergencies.

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Every active shooter incident involves a minimum of three crime scenes: the location of the shooting, the suspect's mode of transportation, and their residence. But these scenes are just the beginning—additional challenges like jurisdictional coordination, evidence preservation, and responder safety add layers of complexity to these high-stakes situations.

Topics covered include:

• Identifying and managing multiple crime scenes.
• The role of area command in resource allocation.
• The importance of digital forensics and intelligence gathering.
• Challenges posed by mobile attackers and spree events.
• Effective delegation and communication strategies during incidents.
• The critical role of hospitals and reunification centers in response efforts.

Whether you're a first responder, incident commander, or simply interested in emergency management, this episode provides valuable insights into handling these dynamic and resource-intensive events.

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