In this interview, Nat Carruthers, Head of Product at Cactus, discusses the opportunities for better design in the health care space. Change is hard and it's easy "to be a nay-sayer", but Carruthers calls on core change agents at health care organizations to apply patience and dedication to find "quick wins" and build on them incrementally.A sizeable portion of the video looks at the different goals and challenges of health care organizations and fitness companies. Most patients visit their health care providers only once a year, or a few times a year. Keeping the patient engaged is a major concern. Health care organizations also face lots of rules and regulations.Learn more about Cactus: https://www.cactus.is/Health IT Community: https://www.healthcareittoday.com/