Malcolm Bramley was in his smart working clothes - suited and booted - when Brian Clough picked up a ball and took shots at him in the goal at Sunderland's Roker Park. "It's an experience I will never forget," Malcom tells the Green Jumper podcast in this fascinating interview. 

After first encountering an outspoken Cloughie while Assistant Secretary at Sunderland, Malcolm was later invited by Brian to apply for the job as Club Secretary at Derby County. It led to many more incredible stories, including a telling-off for the tea lady who later saw the kinder side of Cloughie.  

This is part one of Marcus Alton's entertaining conversation with Malcolm. With thanks to the Roker Report for putting us in touch.