President Biden makes his second trip to an active war zone -- his most dangerous trip yet. Jennifer Palmieri and Claire McCaskill talk to MSNBC’s Jen Psaki about the reasons behind Biden’s decision to visit Israel and how he navigates this tricky situation ahead of 2024. Plus, Donald Trump seems to be trapped in a real-life episode of “Law & Order,” spending more and more time in a courtroom. But why don’t his supporters care? We’ll get into it.
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President Biden makes his second trip to an active war zone -- his most dangerous trip yet. Jennifer Palmieri and Claire McCaskill talk to MSNBC’s Jen Psaki about the reasons behind Biden’s decision to visit Israel and how he navigates this tricky situation ahead of 2024. Plus, Donald Trump seems to be trapped in a real-life episode of “Law & Order,” spending more and more time in a courtroom. But why don’t his supporters care? We’ll get into it. Sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen to this and other MS podcasts without ads. As a subscriber, you'll also get exclusive bonus content. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

President Biden makes his second trip to an active war zone -- his most dangerous trip yet. Jennifer Palmieri and Claire McCaskill talk to MSNBC’s Jen Psaki about the reasons behind Biden’s decision to visit Israel and how he navigates this tricky situation ahead of 2024. Plus, Donald Trump seems to be trapped in a real-life episode of “Law &amp; Order,” spending more and more time in a courtroom. But why don’t his supporters care? We’ll get into it.
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Campaigning from the Courtroom

Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels first became friends over decade ago, as they built careers at the intersection of society and politics. Symone’s work inside administrations and campaigns thrust her into the culture wars, helping candidates navigate the minefields of identity, symbolism, and optics. At “Politico” and “Morning Joe,” Eugene decoded how pop culture shapes — and sometimes skewers — political figures. 

On “Clock It with Symone & Eugene,” they invite listeners and guests into their personal groupchat. They talk about politics (think Nikole Hannah-Jones on civil rights!); they talk about arts and culture (Tony Goldwyn, aka President Fitz from “Scandal,” drops by!); and they talk about how all of it comes together to shape our lives. 

This is where you can stay tapped in without burning out. Because on “Clock It,” you get a look at the world in Symone and Eugene’s signature style: off-the-cuff, engaging, and always with a dose of fun. New episodes drop Thursdays.

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Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels first became friends over decade ago, as they built careers at the intersection of society and politics. Symone’s work inside administrations and campaigns thrust her into the culture wars, helping candidates navigate the minefields of identity, symbolism, and optics. At “Politico” and “Morning Joe,” Eugene decoded how pop culture shapes — and sometimes skewers — political figures. On “Clock It with Symone & Eugene,” they invite listeners and guests into their personal groupchat. They talk about politics (think Nikole Hannah-Jones on civil rights!); they talk about arts and culture (Tony Goldwyn, aka President Fitz from “Scandal,” drops by!); and they talk about how all of it comes together to shape our lives. This is where you can stay tapped in without burning out. Because on “Clock It,” you get a look at the world in Symone and Eugene’s signature style: off-the-cuff, engaging, and always with a dose of fun. New episodes drop Thursdays.

Symone Sanders Townsend and Eugene Daniels first became friends over decade ago, as they built careers at the intersection of society and politics. Symone’s work inside administrations and campaigns thrust her into the culture wars, helping candidates navigate the minefields of identity, symbolism, and optics. At “Politico” and “Morning Joe,” Eugene decoded how pop culture shapes — and sometimes skewers — political figures. 

On “Clock It with Symone &amp; Eugene,” they invite listeners and guests into their personal groupchat. They talk about politics (think Nikole Hannah-Jones on civil rights!); they talk about arts and culture (Tony Goldwyn, aka President Fitz from “Scandal,” drops by!); and they talk about how all of it comes together to shape our lives. 

This is where you can stay tapped in without burning out. Because on “Clock It,” you get a look at the world in Symone and Eugene’s signature style: off-the-cuff, engaging, and always with a dose of fun. New episodes drop Thursdays.

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