In our Campfire Chat series, I sit down with the people you'll get to meet at our adult summer camp and largest event of the year, Camp Indie.

In this episode, hear from two of our main speakers, Erica Hackman and John Burnett, on how they've been able to build lifestyles that give them location, time, and financial freedom - and also how a trip to Qatar lead to a mud hut in Zambia and why storms on a remote island are a good thing!