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GREEN ship finance arrived a few years ago to much fanfare and hope. But times have changed.

Lenders face many of the same hurdles as the rest of shipping: Uncertain regulation and technology, plus a lack of clear standards for what is and isn't green.

But they also have another challenge. Cashed-up shipowners are sitting on piles of pandemic profits and paying back their loans. This means even holding on to a shipping portfolio is a challenge. Fierce competition among lenders has thinned margins, making it harder to offer borrowers much of a discount for greener goals.

President Trump is back in; ESG investing is out. Or is it?

Joining Declan on the podcast this week are:

Jan-Henrik Huebner, global head of shipping advisory practice, DNV Maritime

Tobias Backer, executive director, Pelagic Capital