By the time today's 7-12 year olds get their driver's license, robotic cars will become more common. They will be programmed to make snap decisions when something goes wrong on the road, but can we trust them?

And, as robots around us become more and more sophisticated and human-like, how can we be sure what they tell us is real?

Our guest Gerard Waldron doesn't think his granddaughter will ever need to learn to drive.

Gerard was in charge of the first trial of a driverless car trial on a public road in Australia and is the head of the ARRB Group.