In the latest episode of The Line Podcast, recorded on November 21st, 2025, both of your hosts are on the road, and both of them bring stories and observations from where they’re visiting.

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First up, Jen Gerson joins us from Ottawa, where she’s at the Cardus conference talking about issues of faith and values in Canadian public life. Your hosts get into a long conversation about what “values” actually mean in a Canadian context, how they show up (or don’t) in public policy, and where we might look to find them.

They also talk a bit about fighter jets, but that’s neither here nor there. 

From there, the episode shifts into a deeper discussion about immigration. The Conservatives have rolled out some proposals that both your hosts think are reasonable, but the larger conversation becomes one about national identity. What is Canada’s sales proposition, and what are we asking new Canadians to adopt as part of becoming Canadian? There’s a lot to unpack, including a few shared worries.

Last up, Matt Gurney dives into an interesting — and overdue — development in Canadian health-care. And yes, it ties right back into the values theme, making this a rare three-segment through line.

All that and more in the latest episode of The Line Podcast.