Canny Conversations Podcast by Safaraz Ali MBE

Welcome to the first of these special episodes of the Canny Conversations Podcast where we are going to look back at some of the guests we’ve been hearing from in this current series. 

Your host, Safaraz Ali has been working in the Birmingham Business Community for 26 years and is the founder of the Multicultural Apprenticeship Awards and the Multicultural Apprenticeship Alliance. 

In this episode we have brought together some clips of Saf’s conversations with, first, Jade Person, the new talent manager from Severn Trent and then followed by Graham Hasting-Evans the CEO of the NOCN Group. 

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Is the traditional 9-5 workday hindering your potential? Discover how fostering a culture of lifelong learning and adaptability can bridge the digital skills gap within your organization. We challenge employers to move beyond outdated training methods and instead champion a dynamic environment of continuous learning for all employees, regardless of age or role. By embracing flipped classroom training and experimental learning, businesses can uncover hidden talents within their workforce, equipping them for the digital age. 

Take a trip back to the early 1990s with us as we draw intriguing parallels to today's technological revolution. We explore the urgency for businesses to adapt to technological advancements or face obsolescence. Encouraging investment in work-based learning and apprenticeship programs, we push for a proactive embrace of change. Drawing inspiration from Daniel H. Pink's "Drive," we dissect the role of intrinsic motivation in boosting productivity, and how pushing employees with challenging tasks can bridge national productivity gaps.

In a world that thrives on diversity and innovation, we explore the indispensable role of universities and apprenticeship programs in preparing individuals for tech and digital sectors. Cities like Birmingham and London become vibrant examples of multicultural success, highlighting the potential to sustain a dynamic economy through cultural exchange. We celebrate initiatives like the Multicultural Apprenticeship and Skills Alliance and the impact of nurturing an inclusive, globally aware community. Join us as we share our commitment to this exciting journey towards a more interconnected society, inspired by leaders like Darren who champion positive societal change.

In the second part of this conversation between Safaraz Ali and Derrin Kent from TDM, they explore the transformative potential of employer accountability and engagement in apprenticeship programs. Derrin highlights the critical role of employers in driving the apprenticeship process, fostering a partnership that emphasizes experiential, on-the-job learning. Candid conversations with employers can lead to meaningful commitments, and strategies for dealing with non-engagement, including the tough decision to blacklist unresponsive organizations. 

They also talk about the evolving landscape of work and learning integration, challenging traditional notions of work-life balance and employer-employee dynamics. With a focus on the historical context of apprenticeships. Saf and Derrin critique profit-focused models and discuss the impact of digital transformation and automation in the workplace. Also looking at the importance of effective content curation to keep educational organizations relevant and impactful, ensuring that training aligns with the latest innovations while meeting industry standards.

Hear how personalised learning can transform employer organisations by tailoring educational curriculums to meet specific needs. 

In this brand-new episode of Canny Conversations, Safaraz is talking to Derrin Kent, Managing Director of TDM Limited. In the first part of this three part conversation Derrin tells us about his beginnings, teaching English as a foreign language, and goes on to share his inspiring path to becoming a leader in apprenticeship and development sectors. Derrin and Safaraz explore the profound impact of multicultural perspectives on work-based learning and leadership. Discover how innovation, mentorship, and real-world education can empower careers and drive organizational success, all while fostering a vibrant, accountable work culture that thrives on creativity and empathy.

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From influential roles at Lloyd's Banking Group to pioneering transformations at Capita, Emily Rock's journey from the world of banking to the vibrant landscape of skills and training is nothing short of inspiring. We dive into the complexities and triumphs experienced during their transition, especially amidst the difficulties of the COVID-19 pandemic. Safaraz and Emily talk about her unique perspective on navigating a sector haunted by financial constraints and the constant battle to attract talent, revealing the stark contrast between the corporate and training environments. They explore the pressing issue of apprenticeship demand outpacing availability. Emily also shares eye-opening insights into the burgeoning interest in level four apprenticeships and the critical role both SMEs and large corporations play in bridging this gap. Spotlighting recent research, they discuss the need for reintroduced financial incentives for SMEs and the transformation of outdated apprenticeship perceptions. Their conversation underscores the potential of degree apprenticeships and offers strategic advice for SMEs looking to craft impactful apprenticeship programs.

In this episode we hear the first half of Safaraz's conversation with Emily Rock, the dynamic CEO of the Association of Apprentices She joins him to share her inspiring journey from corporate life to leading a micro-organization dedicated to supporting apprentices. We discover the unique challenges she faces in her role and her innovative strategies to connect apprentices, especially those in SMEs who often experience isolation, with a supportive virtual community. Emily opens up about how equipping apprentices with vital life skills and fostering a robust support system significantly boosts their completion rates and career outcomes, impacting industries such as retail, engineering, construction, and finance.
Emily offers a thoughtful reflection on her career transition and the bold step of moving from a corporate background to the helm of a burgeoning association. She brings to light the agility and distinct decision-making processes required in small organizations compared to the corporate giants. Emily candidly shares the mental commitment and personal rewards of being a CEO, illustrating her passion and determination to make a tangible impact in the world of apprenticeships without any regrets.
We also delve into the significance of mentorship and support systems in leadership roles, with insights on how the St Martin's Group aids in shaping effective apprenticeship policies. Emily discusses her experiences navigating complex policy communication, emphasizing the courage to admit when answers are elusive and the commitment to finding them.

What if the secret to educational excellence lies in focusing on quality over rapid expansion? Join us in an inspiring discussion as we journey through the remarkable transformation of Nelson & Clone College Group under the stewardship of Phil Wilkinson. Safaraz and Phil unpack the strategic decisions that prioritized exceptional student experiences and outstanding examination results, all while navigating the complex challenges of funding and the transition from the private to public sector and how wise investments in facilities and staffing have upheld the institution's commitment to excellence despite financial hurdles.

The conversation broadens to tackle the pressing issues of strategic growth and sustainability within the education sector and delve into the intricacies of funding allocation, bureaucratic challenges, and the essential need for streamlined processes and greater autonomy for colleges. Phil also tells us about the ambitious future plans of the Ascentis Group, from expanding ESOL provision to reintroducing functional skills qualifications and reviving access to HE diplomas, explaining how strategic financial planning and innovative growth strategies are essential to overcoming defunding and market fragmentation.
 They also discuss the criteria for successful acquisitions and the importance of organic growth and digital transformation. The personal commitment of Ascentis' current leader to the organization's long-term vision underscores the stability and growth under his tenure. Lastly, we celebrate the profound impact of business acumen and leadership wisdom in driving social mobility, showcasing the tangible difference made in the education sector. 

Join us for the second part of this insightful journey into the dynamic evolution of Ascentis, as we explore its board structure and strategic direction. We begin by discussing the significant transformation from a cumbersome 50-member board to a streamlined seven-member team, comprising trustees from various educational sectors. Phil Wilkinson, the CEO and a trustee of Ascentis, sheds light on the supportive yet challenging relationship with the board chair and other members, emphasizing the importance of continuous adaptation to government funding policies and the development of new qualifications to stay relevant. Key discussions revolve around the role of different committees, maintaining core values, and navigating potential turbulence due to shifts in post-16 qualification reviews.

Phil tells us about  Ascentis' ambitious foray into the tech education market. Starting in 2013, Ascentis expanded by acquiring Centra, a company specializing in software for children with dyslexia. This acquisition spurred the development of new products targeting dyscalculia and mental health,now operating in approximately 2,500 schools worldwide. The conversation highlights the strategic growth and cultural shift within the organization, the exciting potential for further international expansion, and the new phonics program set to make waves in the U.S. market. Discover how Ascentis has transformed into a competitive and forward-thinking player in the global edutech sector.

In final part of this weeks episode, we shift focus to the expanding educational opportunities across Lancashire through the Nelson and Colne College Group. Phil, who has served as a governor and now chairs the corporation board, shares the college's journey from growth to achieving Ofsted's designation as the only outstanding college in Lancashire. He talks about the impactful acquisitions of Accrington and Rossendale College and Lancashire Adult Learning, which revolutionized adult community learning in the region. Through personal stories and advocacy for lifelong learning, we celebrate the transformative power of education and the significant improvements made in vocational education and training, thanks to dedicated staff and effective management practices.

Welcome to Canny Conversations! In this episode, we delve into the inspiring journey of Phil Wilkinson, the visionary CEO of Ascentis, who transformed a small educational charity into a £7 million powerhouse. Learn about Ascentis’ innovative qualifications for further education colleges, training organizations, and schools worldwide, as well as their subsidiary, IDLS, which creates software for children with dyslexia. Phil shares insights on the burgeoning demand for ESOL qualifications, strategic partnerships, and his leadership evolution from assistant principal to CEO. Join us for a compelling discussion on effective leadership, team dynamics, and educational excellence.

How can we transform the landscape of skills development to meet the demands of a rapidly changing workforce? Tune in as we investigate the critical role of health, particularly mental health, in workforce planning. We'll uncover how the NHS and local governments are leveraging the apprenticeship levy to address shortages, particularly in nursing and allied health professions. Our discussion also spans the broader implications for Metro Mayors in shaping skills investment and the potential introduction of level eight apprenticeships to create a more inclusive and future-ready system from 2021 to 2031.

Our episode goes beyond the traditional view of apprenticeships to explore their dual objectives: driving productivity and promoting social mobility. We highlight successful initiatives like the police constable degree apprenticeship and Middlesex University's innovative recruitment practices. By fostering peer networks among apprenticeship providers and embracing technological advancements, we envision a collaborative ecosystem that enhances curriculum quality and prepares the workforce for future challenges.

Finally, we tackle the evolving role of universities and further education in supporting underserved communities and driving economic growth. With examples like Leeds Trinity University, we illustrate how apprenticeships can open doors to new disciplines despite financial challenges. Reflecting on the pivotal role of Further Education, we emphasize its importance in addressing economic disparities and equipping individuals with essential skills. As we wrap up, we share upcoming initiatives and our aspirations for a sector poised to lead in productivity and social mobility. Join us for a thought-provoking conversation on the future of apprenticeships and skills development.