Maril Vernon is a force of nature. Last year alone she won hacker of the year, keynoted a DefCon village, and also won the SANS DMA for podcast of the year, and there's no sign of her slowing down. George K and George A talk to Maril about:

⚡️ Making the career transition from operator to business leader.

⚙️  The ONE thing she looks for in new tooling.

🔮 And what the very near future holds for her side projects...

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