Tonight we have another double-dose of fantastic guests—triple dose if you consider the second act is a pair of twin brother Private Eyes. Lauren Conlin is a True Crime and Culture reporter from New York ( https://linktr.ee/laurenconlin ) and she will be coming on to recap the Utah Abuse case that we all watched unfold in real-time back in 2022. Tonight we're getting a crash course in the basics of the case and everything that has been happening since news on the matter slowed to a trickle. Frank and Jim Zell (www.InTheZellar.com) will be following Lauren's call with their own contributions in the second hour.

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