In today’s episode, Rusty and Robyn talk with Carl Kaufman, Co-CEO, Co-President, and Managing Director of Fixed Income at Osterwise Management in San Francisco.

Before it was the norm, Carl was designing flexible fixed income strategies for his firm’s clients. His decades of industry experience built the trust necessary to switch to the brokerage industry and start work on some game-changing advancements.

Carl talks with Rusty and Robyn about the difference between investment-grade and high-yield bonds, the post-pandemic state of the US market, and inflation projections. 

"Try to keep perspective. Ask yourself what is really important. And, don’t forget to look into the real world because sometimes you get so caught up in the Wall Street hype and you forget what the real world is. I learned this lesson very early on unfortunately in the crash of ‘87." ~Carl Kaufman