Episode 68, recorded December 3, 2021, discusses the current progress with Best Fleets interviews and some early findings from the data, then digs into some new courses that are coming soon. Sections include:

- 00:00 - Best Fleets interviews and early observations

- 33:50 - New courses: defensive driving, MPI HOS, and pallet jacks

- 42:54 - The state of TDG regs and documentation

Episode 67, recorded November 12, 2021, recaps some recent in-person events then gets into a lengthy discussion about racism in the industry and how to protect drivers on the road. A recap of the new Incident Response course rounds out the episode. Sections include:

- 00:00 - A return to local in-person events!

- 10:26 - Dealing with racism in the industry

- 19:22 - Protecting drivers on the road

- 36:12 - New course on Incident Response

Episode 66, recorded October 22, 2021, digs into the issue of supply chain disruption and labor shortages, leading into an exploration of media coverage decisions. A review of research best practices, using the Madman-Architect-Carpenter-Judge model, follows, wrapping up with some thoughts on the current state of Best Fleets nominations.

Sections include:

- 00:00 - Supply chain, shortages, and media coverage

- 24:40 - Using MACJ as a basis for research

- 45:36 - 2022 Best Fleets to Drive For nominations

Episode 65, recorded October 1, 2021 sees Jane & Mark just back from a very different TCA Convention. After a brief discussion about public speaking, a recap of the convention and the Best Fleets presentation follows. Sections include:

- 00:00 - Public speaking and introductions

- 14:10 - TCA Convention wrap-up

Episode 64, recorded September 9, 2021, kicks off a new season of the CE Podcast with a lengthy discussion of the overlapping Best Fleets to Drive For 2021 and 2022 editions. A review of some upcoming courses rounds out the episode. Sections include:

- 00:00 - Summer activities

- 07-30 - Best Fleets opening and closing craziness

- 41:11 - New courses coming soon

Episode 63, recorded June 25, 2021, rounds out the fifth season of the podcast with a wide-ranging discussion of myths about driver training, why they're dangerous, and what to do about them.

Episode 62, recorded June 4, 2021, notes that the D&I Index is finally live then digs into what drivers do and don't want for training. A discussion of how to use improv skills to improve meetings round out the episode. Sections include:

- 00:00 - Wayne's World and Abbot & Costello

- 04:10 - The D&I Index is live!

- 08:29 - What drivers want from training

- 29:57 - Better meetings through improv

Episode 61, recorded May 14, 2021 starts with a short discussion of the just in time economy and some challenges it presents, then digs into a lengthy discussion about the upcoming Diversity and Inclusion Index, launching in June. Wrapping it up is a review of the new fuel course and some other titles coming in the next month. Sections include:

- 00:00 - Repercussion of the JIT economy

- 12:26 - Diversity & Inclusion Index

- 45:32 - Fuel and other new courses

Episode 60, recorded April 23, 2021 begins with the excitement of vaccinations, then recaps the intense but enlightening Collision Conference. A short discussion of the upcoming Diversity & Inclusion Index rounds out the session. Sections include:

- 00:00 - Vaccination excitement and headaches

- 08:42 - Collision and unintended consequences

- 32:40 - Inequality and lazy policies

- 48:34 - The upcoming D&I Index

Episode 59, recorded April 1, 2021 revisits a previous discussion about subject matter expertise in transportation, exploring why "correct" isn't the same as "complete". A look at common pitfalls among job applicants (particularly for creative positions) follows. Sections include:

- 00:00 - Unpleasant surprises and tech that shouldn't be noticed

- 10:34 - Subject matter expertise and correct vs complete

- 37:22 - Creative laziness in job applications