Don’t click on those ‘Unification Explained YouTube’ videos! Miles and Charlie open 2025 by talking about the OTOY short film ‘765874 Unification’ and honestly, for those of you disappointed that there were no lumps of coal in our Christmas Special… this is it, this is the coal. If this is (as the comments say) ‘Proper Star Trek,’ what do the Casuals who rank Tuvix as 44 out of 144 on their Big List (at time of recording) have to say about this and can they say anything good?

Episode Mentioned: 765874 Unification (12:35)

Talking Points: Charlie hasn’t seen Tron Legacy, Miles goes on about Galaxy Express 999, what does OTOY stand for? Weird CG Jank, Weird Dr. Who regeneration BS, the Koala did it, where’s Michael Burnham? If you don’t know what dogging is, just Google it, Human Jank, DON’T READ THE COMMENTS, Letting the nostalgia run the asylum, fans were complaining about the same stuff back in the 90s that they are today, what ARE we looking forward to in the Year 2025?

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It’s the end of another year for Casual Trek, so Charlie and Miles have picked out episodes to gift each other!

It’s been quite a year, all in all, so they’ve both been merciful and decided to go for some fun episodes. Charlie’s gift to Miles is Space:1999’s Nick Tate guest starring in a Miles O’Brien spy drama in “Honour Among Thieves,” Miles’s gift to Charlie is some amnesia-based hijinks around a castle in “Among the Lotus Eaters,” and for two episodes about betrayal with ‘Among’ in the title, neither host mentions Among Us!

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Talking points include: Castles, Miles is MARL now, Absolute Superman, Spy X Family, Titanic, Nick Tate, gangster movies, Goodfellas, disappointing D&D Beyond stats, Skip Intro’s series on Copaganda, Poker Face, John Hodgeman (who I did know about from his podcast), Brighton is genuinely nice despite how Miles and I describe it, It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Con Air, Chester will appear again, Blake Snyder ruining the film industry, Charlie is a Time Team nerd, Morgan Wallens is awful, Charlie and Miles do a forced amnesia bit, the amnesia plot of 24, the finale of Chuck, Dr Who amnesia theories. Oh, and occasionally Star Trek.

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Put on your biggest shoulder pads, your pointy ears and start being secretive because we’re looking at one of Star Trek’s dastardly duplicitous Romulans and we’ve recruited Celeste from the Nerd & Tie Network to divulge secrets!

In ‘The Enterprise Incident,’(TOS) we see Kirk do THE WORST Mission Impossible Mission ever while Spock gets his flirt on, then in ‘The Enemy,’ (TNG) we get to see one of SF’s greatest performers make the first of three appearances with Andreas Katsulas’ Commander Tomalak and Worf ABSOLUTELY kills a guy (and there was definitely a meeting) and then in ‘Eye of the Needle,’ (VOY) we discover a tiny wormhole with a Romulan at the end of it and the conversation gets about as mature as you definitely expect. But don’t worry, your secrets are safe with us, but only if you rate and review us!

Episodes Discussed: The Enterprise Incident (11:31), The Enemy (46:23) and ‘Eye of the Needle’ (01:17:35)

Talking Points Include: Finding joy despite the horrors, Witch of the Holy Mountain, Dark Shadows, Dan Da Daan, Kirk is just as bad at Metal Gear Solid as Miles, Rom-Face Kirk, Remastered TOS vs original effects TOS, Romulan (and I can’t believe I’m saying thing) Cuck Chairs, TNG’s strength’s as an ensemble show, Andreas Katsulas and an unexpected anime VA, the acting chops of LeVar Burton, Worf DEFINITELY killing a guy and everyone being respectful of his choices, Riker’s espresso habits, Harry Kim is definitely ‘quiet quitting his Starfleet career,’ where Voyager just squanders it’s story potential, the 80s Dungeons and Dragons cartoon, Do you think the world of Star Trek has spam mail? Space is REALLY BIG GUYS and thus We might be one of the few podcasts to ever mention ‘Journey into Space,’

Pedant’s Corner: No whales were harmed in the recording of this podcast.

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Jeri Taylor (June 30, 1938-October 24, 2024) was a screenwriter and producer for many TV shows, including Star Trek The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine and Voyager. In dedication to her memory, we’re talking about three of her scripted episodes. In ‘Night Terrors,’ the Enterprise crew are having trouble sleeping and people’s REM levels are dropping (insert your own Radiohead joke here, we did) and it’s making everyone go a little crazy. Meanwhile, Neelix gets into true crime for his early morning TV show in ‘Investigations’ and bites off more than he can chew while uncovering a traitor in the midst. Then back to the Enterprise for ‘The Drumhead’ which gave us one of the more infamous Picard facepalm memes, but is it enough to put it at Number One on the Big List? If not, you might find yourself on trial for subversion!

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Talking Points Include: Elementary, Ranma 1/2, The Clash, the joys of lighting hydrogen on fire, Silent Hill-esque horror, we get another ‘The Rimmer of the Enterprise’ in Gillespie, some surprising scenes of Worf trying to unalive himself and can Data do white noise to help with sleep? Voyager’s bad workplace politics, would Neelix be a Murderino? Voyager trying to bring a unwanted subplot that we don’t really understand to a conclusion, we’re not in the mood for McCarthy-ism in the Drumhead but that’s okay, this episode has all the subtlety of a brick, Joseph McCarthy is the WORST person to come out of Wisconsin, but who are the best people to come from Wisconsin?

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Moopsy!

As Lower Decks is back for the last time, we’re looking at three animated Star Trek episodes, specifically ones about strange creatures.

The Eye of the Beholder brings us weird dopey-looking elephant slug things who are actually more evolved than humans!

A Tribble Called Quest brings us all kinds of mutant tribbles including a bizarre horrible Tribble with a face! Ugh…

I Have No Bones, Yet I Must Scream brings us an adorable monster in Moopsy, who may have done one or two things wrong.

Moopsy!

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Talking points include: Pokémon, which Pokémon wore sunglasses the best? Dave Willis, Still Wakes the Deep, big ups to The Chinese Room, Alien Isolation, Kew Gardens, Merry Xmas Everyone, that song from X-Men Apocalypse or whatever one it was, Charlie tries to remember X-Men: Dark Phoenix, Roger Dean album covers, sand trouts in Dune, that one Flight of the Conchords song where a leg gets eaten, Play-Doh, Morph, vast, desolate landscapes, does The Federation still have Timpsons? You don’t put the Scottish in a zoo, space zoos, Equilibrium, at some point Charlie should watch Star Trek, dunking on Chakotay, picking up a story partway through, Peter David’s weird universal Majel Barrett thing, X-Men, I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, Todd in the Shadows, Miles gets angry at Charlie, the show and himself for having to listen to Oliver Anthony Music, Anthony Michael Hall, self-destructive insubordination at work, bones and teeth aren’t the same thing, Charlie’s childhood rabbit and the little bunny gulag, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Nolan North, Vegeta & Goku workforce dynamics, trying to stop from having any Big Bang Theory rants, can you tell Charlie’s vamping for time because he forgot who wrote I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream? The Spoony Experiment, Awesomed by Comics, Miles was right to be a despairing heap on a men’s room floor given the election results. Oh, and occasionally Star Trek.

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It’s Halloween time again! Put on your sexy Star Trek costume and make sure you’re fully in control of your faculties because you might not be entirely you in there!

This time, our Casual Explorers decided to explore some of the many psychic and or energy beings who can just pop inside your flesh and blood as easy as a pair of boots.

In Enterprise’s ‘Observer Effect,’ Trip and Hoshi get sick off Klingon rubbish while Travis and Reed get possessed by one very eager energy being and one who is basically #quietquitting, in Deep Space Nine’s ‘The Assignment,’ O’Brien’s life is once more a living hell when his wife gets taken over by the Pah’Wraiths and Rom struggles to make friends at work and finally, we round it off with our main event, Dr. Beverly Crusher’s adventures with sex-ghosts who live in candles ‘Sub Rosa’ and Charlie and Miles find themselves watching one of Star Trek’s worst-ranked episodes and ask the most important question, ’Do the Scottish know there’s a Scotland in Space?’ Honestly, it’s much more fun to watch Troi get heavily involved in talking about Crusher’s sex dreams than it ever is to have to engage in discussions on the ethics of terrorism as we did last episode. If you or anyone else is showing signs of possession, please don’t come to us for help, Google it. Or ask us on Ko-Fi.

Episodes Discussed: ENT: Observer Effect (12:25), DS9: The Assignment (42:12) and TNG: Sub Rosa (01:13:40)

SHOW NOTES: The FULL English Breakfast, Miles forgot to do his Crypt-Keeper Schtick this Halloween, he also has opinions on the Halloween series of films, the Leprechaun films, Legend of Zelda Echoes of Wisdom, Jailhouse Rock’s surprising appearance on the charts and a quick diversion into British music magazine the NME, Let Me Love You is possibly the WORST song we’ve had to listen to for the show (you win this round, Sheeran!) Miles admits to his dark past as a ‘Nice Guy’ The Andromeda Strain, You gotta feel sorry for Klingon Plumbers, quiet-quitting Energy Beings, the Organians have gone all The Good Place with their criteria for success, how this would have ended if this were either an episode of The Twilight Zone or The Outer Limits, the Spice Girls, Charlie DOES know songs that weren’t featured on Rock Band thank you very much, Miles takes a break from bitching about Starbucks to bitch about the Hilton, Deep Space Nine and Babylon 5 are ripping each-other, Bashir and O’Brien being sitcom scamps, Rom trying to make friends, ‘Things can Only Get Better’ is a song that’ll forever be thought as an anthem for Neo-Liberal malaise, Sunshine, Charlie recommends a horror film,Scream, Bryan Adams, Sting & Rod Stewart as alternate Three Musketeers, Have YOU ever told a boss about a sexual fantasy? Marina Sirtis’ accent slips a lot, ‘The Innocents’, Charlie’s RPG of the week ‘The Between,’ would Ronin have had to seduce Wesley Crusher? Despite it’s female audience Star Trek always has a Male Gaze on the Cosmos, SF complaining about romance and sexuality, the SCOTTISH PLANET, the fact there’s a church leads us to wonder if the Abrahamic Religions are still practised and worshipped in the often-secular Star Trek, consent in ‘Sub Rosa’ comparing to consent in ‘Plato’s Stepchildren,’

PEDANTS CORNER: It’s Busta Rhymes who kung-fu’d Michael Myers in Halloween Resurrection, The Defiant actually came first with Deep Space Nine’s Season 3 in 1994 Babylon 5 introduced the White Star in Season 3 in 1995. Although, when talking about Doctor Who, I didn’t think to consider that some of the more legitimate arguments against the Doctor being more sexual as a being has felt like the show’s Ace-Erasure to fans who see the Doctor as an all-too-rare example of positive Asexual Representation)

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Dust off your illegal VHS tapes and be prepared to write a strongly worded letter to Points of View because we’re back with the second part of our ‘Banned by the Beeb’ two-parter looking at three more episodes of Star Trek that suffered the wrath of British censorship. We’re back with three episodes, the final two banned TOS episodes, starting with ‘The Empath’ where William Shatner has to do some Dark Place style slow-motion running and McCoy definitely violates some medical practices as our latest butt-headed aliens the Vians pull out the chains and then with ‘Whom Gods Destroy’ where Kirk and Spock are repeatedly taken in and out of rooms and forced to ask chess questions by a mad-man in mismatched boots. Which episode is more controversial- SHOOT THEM BOTH, SPOCK! But after that, the fun and hijinks go away with ‘The High Ground,’ a TNG episode banned due to a line about Irish Reunification and Miles and Charlie find themselves having to ponder the age old question, can a show written, produced and made by Americans talk about how fighting for independence against oppressive colonialist Imperialism and somehow seem to conclude that it’s a bad thing, actually. Or, as Miles’ wife Reanna said as she watched the episode with him ‘Gosh, this has aged well.’ There are some things we can try to make fun, not everything.

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Talking Points Include: THEY PUT BABY SUPERMAN IN A MICROWAVE?!?!, Judge Dredd killing the Jolly Green Giant, dialogue censorship in American comics, Miles’ 12th Wedding Anniversary is a good excuse to go off on how amazing the film ‘Lifeforce’ is, Alex Garland’s ‘Annihilation,’ Patrick Stewart’s first movie kiss, Charlie has a physical subscript to 2000 AD (Lucky Bugger, Miles has to do digital), 2000 AD and Judge Dredd Megazine, SHIFT Magazine that Charlie has a story in, Alan Moore’s ‘The March of the Sinister Ducks,’ Miles tries his empathic powers, the three different alien physicalities of Star Trek, DeForest Kelley’s favourite episode, Hurt/Comfort fanfic, sometimes you can tell that the cast know the show’s getting cancelled soon, the Cenobites would hate dealing with Starfleet, old make-up techniques, how the characters have become less real over the first three seasons, William Shatner doing his slow-mo running, the British hatred of Morris Men and all they stand for, how a lot of modern comedy lacks actual stakes, The Beatles vs. The Rolling Stones, Jeff knows what he’s done, Yvonne Craig (TV’s Batgirl) as a dancing girl, Mental Health doesn’t work how Star Trek thinks it works, lots of shouting, oh God more Am-Dram, Legion of Super-Heroes, did Wayne’s World ruin the name ‘Garth?’ Double-Nerve Pinch, ‘Pointy-Eared Bum Head!’Garth’s really bad Glam-Rock band, did the BBC have a point? Power-Mad-Starbucks Supervisors, padding, Kylie Minogue, Michael Bolton, where do Americans know Kylie Monogue from? the Troubles, the IRA’s attempt to assassinate Thatcher in the 80s (in Miles and Charlie’s hometown no less!), Picard is unable to answer the important question ‘What is terrorism?’ and ‘but doesn’t terrorism occasionally work for good outcomes?’, does Magneto have a point? Imperialism, Colonialism, Centrists are the worst, it really stops being fun talking points for The High Ground, the actor playing Finn seems to be going for a Jack Nicholson-esque drawl to sound dangerous, but he just sounds utterly checked out. And sometimes Star Trek.

Pedants Corner: ‘Neighbours’ was a long running Australian soap-opera that would air in the 5:30 timeslot Monday-Friday evening BBC 1 slot after the kids’ programming ended and before the 6 o’Clock News.

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INTERLOPER! We have an interloper in the podcast! It’s Sean Corse of Famicom Dojo and Two Boobs Watch the Tube fame, here in the spirit of Nerd & Tie unification.

This episode we’re looking at the Unification trilogy, a multi-part story that spans multiple Star Trek series and over 800 years! First up, Picard and Data go to Romulus to hunt down Spock, who might have turned traitor! We also have Riker chatting up a multi-armed widow and a junkyard guy who has way too many face-folds.

Then, we fast forward to Discovery in their grimdark future era and while unifying the Romulans and Vulcans is a good thing, this is actually still all about Michael. Oh, and Tilly, take the damn job already!

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Talking points include: Three Kingdoms, Third Doctor, Farscape, Sean paying for Twitter, Famicom Dojo, Two Boobs Watch the Tube, Quantum Leap (old and new), A World of Ice & Fire, the old Indiana Jones video game, Tom Bombadil, lengthy definitions of “Twee”, Ted Lasso, Kate Fox’s Watching the English, Taskmaster New Zealand, Americans understanding Vic Reeves, Adam Adamant, Bono’s Vertigo Comics look, Miles is coming for David Tennant, Actually liking a U2 track, our threat of a Lost podcast, the guy played by Cameron from Ferris Bueller’s Day Off (also from Bunheads), some X-Men level convoluted BS, Come On Eileen, Romulan retirement plans, sleazy space bars, Hitchiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, Riker deepfakes, are Bones and Spock married? Golden Landis Von Jones, Jimmy from Degrassi, Marion Morrison, Todd in the Shadows, two Brits out-awkwarding an American, Brexit, heists, Space: 1999, we’re all about the cheese, Blake’s 7, Fringe Season Five, Will Section 31 be Guardians of the Galaxy or will it be Borderlands the Movie? Oh, and occasionally Star Trek.

Pedant’s Corner:

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Show Notes: Despite what Americans may think, moral panics about TV exist everywhere and today, we begin the exploration of a doozy. The start of a two-part look into four episodes of Star Trek that came a cropper at the hands of Auntie Beeb (a not-so affectionate term for the BBC) that of course allows Miles to indulge in one of his favourite talking points about British movie culture – Video Nasties!

Because of this, we’re only looking at two episodes per part. In ‘Miri,’ we see some very familiar style backlots and some very 1960s ways of talking to young women which definately makes our casual explorers think Auntie may have a point! Then, we jump straight to the third season of The Original Trek as our heroes endure ten minutes of plot and forty minutes of bloody nonsence in ‘Plato’s Stepchildren,’ possibly one of the most famous episodes of Star Trek (unless you’re from the Deep South) but is consent more important than controversy? Whatever we decide, the Big List will change forever!

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Talking Points: Video Nasties, why were these episodes banned from broadcast until the 90s, Miles’s first choice for his Non-Trek thing indicates some wider issues, Alien Romulus, Miles misses Stupid Drunk British Lads smashing stuff with pipes, Astro’s Playroom, Miles and Charlie have different views towards achieving Platinum on games, Miri, Miles only wants to talk about lists, not get put on one himself, the always creepy ‘she looks 14 but she’s actually 300 trope,’ Kirk’s charm here does not read well in 2024, exact replicas of Earth are a little silly, how many SF societies wipe themselves out looking for immortality (and Miles pulls out a bit of ‘meanwhile in the UK, Doctor Who was doing this’ coincidence), we briefly touch on the rather triggering experiences of Grace Whitney (Yeoman Rand) shortly after this episode and her leaving the series, the oddly faced Steven Jay Pollard, Droogs in waiting, Shatner clearly trying not to punch a child, did the BBC have a point with Miri? Violence from children, inferred child-death, Hey Jude, the majesty of the theme for ‘The Good, The Bad and the Ugly,’ whenever people bring up eugenics, just turn around and run, we’ve started to incorporate our experiences with Space 1999 into watching Star Trek, nonsense starts and just generally never stops, Charlie gets slap-happy, Mary Whitehouse would not approve which is fine because we don’t approve of Mary Whitehouse. The nonsense gets creepy when Spock starts singing and it gets REALLY creepy when Kirk and Uhura is made to smooch, Charlie really wants to make a Dragonball Z joke here, when it’s done, Miles is pulling off the band-aid, some real shame on our heroes her, is this our first mention of slash-fics? This episode doesn’t go full-Hellraiser, No Gods No Philosopher Kings, sorry Parmon, one day Miles will go on a long tirade on how people misuse the term ‘Lynchian,’how much truth is there in the legend, would you show this to your partner and we can’t escape Shatner’s disturbingly pointy nipple, Miles has watched some wank in his life and that definately reflects his opinion of the episode, Miles poses Charlie a very important question.

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It’s the fiftieth numbered episode (Network note: We’d numbered it as 55, but Miles and Charlie don’t always tell us ahead of time when an episode is getting a number or not), but! Do our brave and casual explorers want to do something special? Do they want to drastically alter the podcast’s format and mission statement (Miles is still holding out for #blakesboys), not particually, but they’re interested in when Star Trek’s done it! Join them as they finally talk about Star Trek The Original Series’ second attempt at securing a series as we meet Captain James “R.” Kirk as he goes ‘Where No Man Has Gone Before’ and proceeds to meet our first Godlike being who needs a swift beating. Then, in Discovery’s ‘That Hope is You Part 1’ we heard into the 32nd Century, but discover that Star Wars-style wretched hives of scum and villainy still exist, but we finally get a chance to make the Ship’s Cat actually pull his weight around here. Finally to round it all off, we watch ‘Star Trek: Picard’s’ second season opener ‘The Stargazer’, and even technical problems with the call can’t stop us from realising that the show has some problems with repeating itself. Will there be drastic podcast changes in the future? If Miles doesn’t stop trying to make #blakesboys a thing, possibly!

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TECHNICAL NOTES: We have a escalating series of technical issues during both the ‘Discovery’ and ‘Picard’ portions of the episode, we did our best to put together what we could and we apologize for the inconvenience.

TALKING POINTS INCLUDE: The New-52, the UNIT era of Doctor Who, first world aspiring writer problems, The Dark Knight Returns, Miles feels like he makes a point and Charlie utterly proves him wrong (this is Miles writing the notes), Severance, Miles getting two entirely different shows mixed up, Miles does NOT want the Confederacy marching up his road, Gary Mitchell and Kelso, we hardly knew ya, where ‘The Cage’ and ‘No-Man’ are different and where does one work over the other, Kirk’s stunt-double, defeating gods with a humble f*****g boulder to their entire body, the different uniforms, Roddenberry’s horny casting premises, Spock’s shouting again, Big Kirk Nerd, we go on a pretty lengthy digression about Star Wars… for some reason that’s totally unrelated to the episode of Discovery, never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem, Miles makes a reference to ‘Blake’s 7’ that he feels is utterly valid, Michael Burnham getting to change and evolve, Book, Grudge and the Ship’s Cat list, Covid-era SFX, the moment that makes both Miles and Charlie tear up, how Discovery advances the technology of Star Trek and how difficult it is on SF TV to make the far-future believable while not being silly, We Don’t Talk About Bruno and a quick digression into Disney films, people wanting to ride Admiral Picard’s Sexy Bald Head, Picard really shouldn’t be having a midlife crisis in his 90s, Star Trek Captains just don’t do personal lives, where Season 2 and Season 3 of Picard really have some noticeable similarities, Charlie still doesn’t care for Elnor, John DeLancie is always a delight, there’s a lot of smoking weirdness in Picard, we do actually like stuff about Picard honest, honest, honest, awkward personal drama on the Bridge, would Picard smoke a pipe? Secret +2!

PEDANT’S CORNER: Eastenders isn’t a sitcom, it’s a soap opera that makes Game of Thrones look like the Dungeons and Dragons cartoon. Severance and Succession are two different shows MILES

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