All eyes were on the Vatican when the United States' second Catholic President, Joe Biden, visited Pope Francis. Political pundits across the Atlantic dissected the visit, looking for any word or gesture that could reveal Pope Francis' political leanings towards Democrats or Republicans. But Dan Lipinski–who served eight terms as the U.S. Representative for Illinois’ Third Congressional District from 2005 to 2021–pushed back, arguing that the pope is not a supporter of either party.

Lipinski, who identifies as a "pro-life Catholic Democrat" and was marginalized by his own party, speaks with Gloria about the growing trend toward extreme political positions in politics and what Catholics engaged in politics can do about it. They also discuss the impact of the election of the country's first black president, Barack Obama, on the Catholic Church and the Republican party.

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