We’re back in Brockwell Park with Cathy Newman! Cathy’s got a cat - a Russian Blue called Cher who didn't join us on the walk, however we think Raymond reawakened her inner dog-lover. Is it time to get a whippet?!

Cathy tells us all about how she worked her way up through journalism to become the presenter of Channel 4 News. She talks about her famous interview with Jordan Peterson, and how she dealt with the abuse she received afterwards.

If you haven’t heard the first part of this chat, you can listen to it here

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Walking The Dog is produced by Faye Lawrence

Music: Rich Jarman 

Artwork: Alice Ludlam

Photography: Karla Gowlett 

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