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  • Atheist Logic By Experiment Or Agreement? – Ep.355 – The Great Debate – Bahnsen’s 2nd Opening – Part 2

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgF41a4tYXI

    Atheist Logic By Experiment Or Agreement?

    Finishing up Bahnsen’s attempt to help out his atheist opponent provide justification for his use of logic, we look at logic being shown through experimentation or agreement. And like the good Christian Bahnsen is, he provides a good overview and then sinks the foundation of the atheist to claim any grounding for logic.

    TIMELINE:

    00:00 – Introduction

    01:47 – Atheist Logic From A Posteriori?
    04:07 – Are Laws Of Logic Contingent Under Atheism?
    06:29 – Why Do Laws Of Logic Work In Different Areas The Same
    07:50 – Atheist Logic Just Linguistic Convention?
    09:27 – If So Then They’re Culturally Relative
    11:59 – Why Do Atheists Decry Moral Failure Of Christians
    13:13 – What Type Does One Give To Back Up Atheistic Materialistic Logic
    15:04 – Atheists Steal From Christians To Use Logic
    15:45 – Conclusion

    BOOK LINKS:

    The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows

    Debate Transcript Video

    The Bahnsen Institute

     

     

     

    All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com

    17 min
  • The Failure Of Atheistic Logic – Ep.354 – The Great Debate – Bahnsen’s 2nd Opening – Part 1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeaWCLz68MY

    The Failure Of Atheistic Logic

    Where Stein has claimed that the laws of logic are only agreed upon but useful, Bahnsen is having a hard time accepting that – because it’s wrong. It’s up to Bahnsen to try and make the case for the atheist metaphysical use of the laws of logic. But it’s also up to Bahnsen to shoot those down too and show the failure of atheistic logic.

    TIMELINE:

    00:00 – Introduction

    01:57 – A Battle Of Worldviews
    05:46 – The Atheist Doesn’t Have Reason To Use Reason
    07:10 – The Christian’s Reason For Reason
    08:08 – The Laws Of Logic Need A Mind
    08:28 – Helpful Remind Of The Laws Of Logic
    10:06 – Justifying Truth Of Logic Without Needing To Test It
    11:42 – Not Proven Because They’re Used
    13:40 – Logic Is More Conceptual Than Empirical
    14:31 – Why Logic Can Always Be Used Consistently If They’re Only Agreed Upon
    17:12 – If Logic Relies On People Only Why Don’t We Have Different Scholarships
    18:49 – To The Library!
    21:06 – Conclusion

    BOOK LINKS:

    The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows

    Debate Transcript Video

    The Bahnsen Institute

     

     

     

    All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com

    22 min
  • More Greek, More Sci-Fi – Ep.353 – 2025 Book Reviews – Part 2

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_PXZTty4XY

    A Little Greek, A Little Sci-Fi

    The final half of the list of 2025 book reviews has more Greek, more sci-fi, and more indiepub goodness. Romance in space and space opera, talking pigs and talking frogs, first contact with aliens and first contact with demons, and good church history hymns and bad biblical archeology.

    TIMELINE:

    00:00:00 – Introduction

    00:00:25 – Medea by Euripides
    00:01:56 – The Trojan Women by Euripides
    00:03:13 – Charlotte’s Web by E.B. White
    00:06:40 – The Breadth of Creation by C.S. Johnson
    00:08:40 – Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds
    00:12:34 – Prince Caspian by C.S. Lewis
    00:14:16 – The Clouds by Aristophanes
    00:16:23 – The Frogs by Aristophanes
    00:17:48 – Shoot the Devil – Ten Tales of Humans Defeating the Demonic edited by Eric Postma
    00:22:48 – Lifebinder by Blake Carpenter
    00:26:48 – Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein
    00:29:39 – Theogony – Works and Days by Hesiod
    00:31:22 – Blind Devotion – A Tale of the Van Meter Visitor by Ty Drago
    00:33:39 – The Last Summer – A Tale of the Glawackus by Jacob Jones-Goldstein
    00:35:34 – 3 Black Nights – An Urban Fantasy Horror Triple Feature! By T.J. Marquis
    00:39:51 – The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein
    00:44:21 – Record of The Paladins – Book of Ivon and Ivoire by BP McCoppin
    00:47:48 – After Moses Prodigal by Michael F. Kane
    00:52:14 – The Shepherd Descends by J.A. Raithe
    00:55:50 – Atlas of World War II – History’s Greatest Conflict Revealed Through Rare Wartime Maps and New Cartography Stephen G. Hyslop
    00:58:26 – Stones Still Speak – How Biblical Archaeology Illuminates the Stories You Thought You Knew Amanda Hope Haley
    01:02:59 – The One Year Book of Hymns – 365 Devotions Based on Popular Hymns Robert K. Brown , Mark Norton
    01:04:35 – The Door in the Wall by Marguerite de Angeli
    01:07:32 – DIEROCK 88 by S.A. Oliver
    01:11:05 – Before The Coffee Gets Cold by Toshikazu Kawaguchi
    01:14:45 – Conclusion

    Books mentioned in this episode:

    Medea by Euripides

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    The Trojan Women by Euripides

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    Charlotte’s Web by E.B. White

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    The Breadth of Creation by C.S. Johnson

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    Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds

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    Prince Caspian by C.S. Lewis

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    The Clouds by Aristophanes

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    The Frogs by Aristophanes

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    Shoot the Devil – Ten Tales of Humans Defeating the Demonic edited by Eric Postma

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    Lifebinder by Blake Carpenter

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    Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein

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    Theogony – Works and Days by Hesiod

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    Blind Devotion – A Tale of the Van Meter Visitor by Ty Drago

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    The Last Summer – A Tale of the Glawackus by Jacob Jones-Goldstein

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    3 Black Nights – An Urban Fantasy Horror Triple Feature! By T.J. Marquis

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    The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein

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    Record of The Paladins – Book of Ivon and Ivoire by BP McCoppin

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    After Moses Prodigal by Michael F. Kane

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    The Shepherd Descends by J.A. Raithe

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    Atlas of World War II – History’s Greatest Conflict Revealed Through Rare Wartime Maps and New Cartography Stephen G. Hyslop

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    Stones Still Speak – How Biblical Archaeology Illuminates the Stories You Thought You Knew Amanda Hope Haley

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    The One Year Book of Hymns – 365 Devotions Based on Popular Hymns Robert K. Brown , Mark Norton

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    The Door in the Wall by Marguerite de Angeli

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    DIEROCK 88 by S.A. Oliver

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    Before The Coffee Gets Cold by Toshikazu Kawaguchi

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    Paperback

    All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com

     

    1 hr 15 min
  • A Little Greek, A Little Sci-Fi – Ep.352 – 2025 Book Reviews – Part 1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErkAm-0M8c0

    A Little Greek, A Little Sci-Fi

    2025 kicked off my goal of reading the great books of Western Civilization. So in typical fashion I read a little Greek, a little sci-fi, and a smattering of everything else. Indiepub still factored into the list with some hits and misses, just like the tradpubs. As always, the goal we should all have isn’t quantity it’s quality. But quality doesn’t just mean classic great books, it means books you enjoy and changes you and allows you to experience escapism and learn more about God’s world as He is the ultimate storyteller.

    TIMELINE:

    00:00:00 – Introduction

    00:04:14 – The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe by C.S. Lewis
    00:07:06 – The God Frequency by Douglas Hemme
    00:10:40 – Amorphous – Breaking the Mold by Steven Burgess
    00:12:06 – Spectrum Multiview Christian Ethics Four Views edited by Steve Wilkens
    00:18:18 – The Peace War by Vernor Vinge
    00:22:37 – Greek for the Rest of Us by William D. Mounce
    00:26:05 – The Iliad by Homer
    00:32:09 – Peter Pan by J.M. Barrie
    00:34:31 – Flight of the Eagles by Gilbert L. Morris
    00:37:21 – Sundered by Ernie Laurence Jr.
    00:38:55 – Horus Rising by Dan Abnett
    00:41:37 – The Odyssey by Homer
    00:43:17 – D’Aulaires’ Book of Greek Myths by Ingri d’Aulaire
    00:44:46 – The Secret Door by Jenny Phillips
    00:46:59 – Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir
    00:49:34 – Passing the Torch – An Apology for Classical Christian Education by Louis Markos
    00:53:21 – The Core by Leigh A. Bortins
    00:56:06 – Agamemnon by Aeschylus
    00:59:10 – The Libation Bearers by Aeschylus
    01:00:39 – The Eumenides by Aeschylus
    01:02:29 – The Air We Breathe – How We All Came to Believe in Freedom, Kindness, Progress, and Equality by Glen Scrivener
    01:05:11 – Adam of the Road by Elizabeth Janet Gray
    01:07:00 – Maisie Dobbs by Jacqueline Winspear
    01:09:45 – The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
    01:12:15 – Mr. Popper’s Penguins by Richard Atwater
    01:13:37 – Oedipus Rex by Sophocles
    01:16:36 – Oedipus at Colonus by Sophocles
    01:18:39 – Antigone by Sophocles
    01:21:12 – To Be Continued Next Week

    Books mentioned in this episode:

    The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe by C.S. Lewis

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    The God Frequency by Douglas Hemme

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    Amorphous – Breaking the Mold by Steven Burgess

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    Spectrum Multiview Christian Ethics Four Views edited by Steve Wilkens

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    Paperback 
    CaveToTheCross Episodes – wwww.CaveToTheCross.com/ChristianEthics

     

     

     

     

    The Peace War by Vernor Vinge

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    Greek for the Rest of Us by William D. Mounce

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    Paperback

     

     

     

     

    The Iliad by Homer

    Kindle
    Paperback
    Audible

     

     

     

     

    Peter Pan by J.M. Barrie

    Kindle
    Paperback
    Audible

     

     

     

     

    Flight of the Eagles by Gilbert L. Morris

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    Sundered by Ernie Laurence Jr.

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    Horus Rising by Dan Abnett

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    The Odyssey by Homer

    Kindle
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    D’Aulaires’ Book of Greek Myths by Ingri d’Aulaire

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    Paperback
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    The Secret Door by Jenny Phillips

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    Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir

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    Passing the Torch An Apology for Classical Christian Education by Louis Markos

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    The Core by Leigh A. Bortins

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    Agamemnon by Aeschylus

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    The Libation Bearers by Aeschylus

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    The Eumenides by Aeschylus

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    The Air We Breathe How We All Came to Believe in Freedom, Kindness, Progress, and Equality by Glen Scrivener

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    Adam of the Road by Elizabeth Janet Gray

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    Maisie Dobbs by Jacqueline Winspear

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    The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

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    Mr. Popper’s Penguins by Richard Atwater

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    Oedipus Rex by Sophocles

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    Oedipus at Colonus by Sophocles

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    Antigone by Sophocles

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    All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com

     

     

     

     

    1 hr 22 min
  • Andreas Köstenberger Interview – Interview Redux

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dv78KPto4o

    Andreas Köstenberger Interview Redux

    Here are two of our interviews with the great Andreas Köstenberger. The first part was discussing his book in response to Bart Ehrman that we did on the show. The second being a join interview with Andreas Köstenberger and his co-author Gregory Goswell on their amazing Biblical Theology book. I have more Köstenberger books in my collection and have referenced his work in almost every message at church I’ve taught. He’s a blessing to the Church and a godly worker in the Lord. Enjoy listening to these interviews and a dream come true from my standpoint.

    TIMELINE:

    00:00 – Introduction

    01:44 – How Does He Write So Much?!
    04:41 – The Importance Of Writing With Others
    06:31 – On The Importance Of John & “Signs Of The Messiah”
    08:23 – From Atheist Economist To Christian Theologian
    14:09 – Setting His Target On Bart Ehrman
    17:36 – The Inspiration For “Truth In A Culture Of Doubt”
    19:00 – The Skeptic’s Problem Of The Problem Of Evil
    23:15 – Bart Ehrman – The Poor Man’s Theologian
    26:15 – Bart Ehrman’s Two Audiences
    29:02 – The Layout Of “Truth In A Culture Of Doubt”
    36:46 – Bart & Bauer Still Going – Why?
    43:00 – Christianity Has A Reliance On Written Texts At The Beginning
    47:23 – The Future & Needs Of New Testament Scholarship
    49:25 – The Desire For Academics To Throw Out Truths Of Christianity
    54:15 – Where Andreas Köstenberger Thinks The Future Of Apologetics Is Going
    58:30 – Biblical Foundations Organization & Its Impact
    01:02:25 – A Quick Review Of Biblical Theology
    01:02:53 – The Division Of Labor & Working Together
    01:06:13 – Biblical Theology Vs. Systematic Theology Or Partnership?
    01:10:31 – How Biblical Theology Helps Our Presuppositions
    01:15:40 – You Too Can Do Biblical Theology
    01:17:30 – Ethics In Focus In Biblical Theology
    01:27:07 – Theologians Share Surprises In Biblical Theology
    01:31:28 – How To Use The Biblical Theology Book
    01:36:10 – Other Points About The Book
    01:38:57 – Conclusion

    LINKS

    LINKS To Andreas Köstenberger

    Biblical Foundations
    Facebook
    Twitter

    LINKS To Gregory Goswell

    https://christcollege.edu.au/faculty/greg-goswell/

    LINKS:

    09:50 – Finding Truth Playlist
    14:17 – Ehrman Vs. Wallace Debate
    25:36 – Ehrman Vs. White Debate
    32:48 – Atheists Should Be Consistently Skeptical
    37:09 – Michael J. Kruger Mashup

    Books mentioned in this episode:
    Books mentioned in this episode:

    Truth In A Culture Of Doubt – Engaging Skeptical Challenges to the Bibleby Andreas Köstenberger, Darrell Bock, and Josh Chatraw

    Kindle – https://amzn.to/2JX62lL

    Paperback – https://amzn.to/3hoREkW

     

     

     

     

    Signs Of The Messiah – An Introduction to John’s Gospel by Andreas Köstenberger

    Kindle – https://amzn.to/3eM4W9r

    Hardcover – https://amzn.to/33PBGrU

     

     

     

     

     

    Finding Truth – 5 Principles for Unmasking Atheism, Secularism, and Other God Substitutes by Nancy Pearcey

    Kindle – https://amzn.to/3ohuxKj

    Hardcover – https://amzn.to/3eQ1RFh

    Audible – https://amzn.to/33N0yka

     

     

     

     

    Truth Matters – Confident Faith in a Confusing World by Andreas Köstenberger, Darrell Bock, and Josh Chatraw

    Kindle – https://amzn.to/3fcwVhu

    Hardcover – https://amzn.to/3fjcQWR

    Paperback – https://amzn.to/33JGU8N

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Jesus And The Eyewitnesses – The Gospels as Eyewitness Testimony by Richard Bauckham

    Kindle – https://amzn.to/3uI6Ltv

    Hardcover – https://amzn.to/3bsseik

    Paperback – https://amzn.to/3tQlx03

    How To Be An Atheist – Why Many Skeptics Aren’t Skeptical Enough by Mitch Stokes

     

     

    Kindle – https://amzn.to/2Qgv0zW

    Paperback – https://amzn.to/3huJebU

     

     

     

     

     

    The Heresy Of Orthodoxy – How Contemporary Culture’s Fascination with Diversity Has Reshaped Our Understanding of Early Christianity by Michael J. Kruger & Andreas Köstenberger

    Kindle – https://amzn.to/2QjvxRR

    Paperback – https://amzn.to/3v4hpuZ

     

     

     

     

     

    Christianity At The Crossroads – How the Second Century Shaped the Future of the Church by Michael J. Kruger

    Kindle – https://amzn.to/3hn95SU

    Paperback – https://amzn.to/33JYCJ8

     

     

     

     

     

    The Cradle, the Cross, and the Crown: An Introduction to the New Testament by Andreas Köstenberger, L. Scott Kellum, Charles L Quarles

    Kindle – https://amzn.to/3tMb45U

    Hardcover – https://amzn.to/3hqkeCx

     

     

     

     

    Women in the Church – An Interpretation and Application of 1 Timothy 2:9-15 by Andreas Köstenberger & Thomas R. Schreiner

    Kindle – https://amzn.to/3w2d1fZ

    Paperback – https://amzn.to/2QlaQ7Y

     

     

     

     

     

    God’s Design for Man and Woman – A Biblical-Theological Survey by Andreas Köstenberger & Margaret Elizabeth Köstenberger

    Kindle – https://amzn.to/33McqTz

    Paperback – https://amzn.to/2RUNXZE

     

     

     

     

     

    Apologetics At The Cross – An Introduction for Christian Witness by Josh Chatraw

    Kindle – https://amzn.to/3fh9pjx

    Hardcover – https://amzn.to/3uWI5O0

    Audible – https://amzn.to/3uT8koD

     

     

     

    Telling A Better Story – How to Talk About God in a Skeptical Age by Josh Chatraw

    Kindle – https://amzn.to/3ybiiUl

    Paperback – https://amzn.to/33N245Q

    Audible – https://amzn.to/3ygRge8

     

     

     

     

    Evidence That Demands A Verdict – Life-Changing Truth for a Skeptical World by Josh McDowell & Sean McDowell

    Kindle – https://amzn.to/3hqqZ77

    Hardcover – https://amzn.to/3fjeCat

    Audible – https://amzn.to/2RlxyNO

    God, Marriage, And Family – Rebuilding the Biblical Foundation by Andreas Köstenberger & David W. Jones

    Kindle – https://amzn.to/3v0stt3

    Paperback – https://amzn.to/2RSwaSK

    Biblical Theology: A Canonical, Thematic, and Ethical Approach

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    Logos
    Crossway

     

     

     

     

    Text and Paratext: Book Order, Title, and Division as Keys to Biblical Interpretation by Gregory Goswell

    All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com

    1 hr 42 min
  • Church History Matters Redux – Interview With Troy Frasier From Revived Thoughts

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oXycsqAl-I

    Church History Matters Redux

    I absolutely love the people God has brought together in the scope of doing this podcast. One very good friend is Troy Frasier who helps run the Revived Thoughts podcast which takes sermons of the past and gets people to record them so they can be heard now in the present. I know! What a great concept! Here’s Troy and I sitting down to talk about why Church History matters for us today and all people in God’s historical timeline. Enjoy!

    TIMELINE:

    00:00 – Introduction

    04:43 – Why Listen To Sermons From Church History
    11:55 – How To Listen To Sermons Of History For The Ears Of Today
    19:04 – The Sung Heroes Of Church History Should Be Sung
    22:13 – The Unsung Heroes Of Church History Should Be Sung
    23:35 – God’s Word Inspires People To Make History
    26:04 – The Outlook We Can Have Because Of What Others Did In History
    28:56 – The Definition Of Church History & Who’s Included
    32:17 – The Christian Message Moves People To Move It
    33:32 – Are You Letting The Gospel Move You?
    42:22 – To Be Continued…Right Now!
    42:32 – Looking Into The Past Of Church History To Live It Today
    48:08 – Making Church History That Lasts Throughout History
    51:14 – Don’t Look To Pop Culture When Church History Has The Hereos To Look At
    55:33 – Scary Church History May Not Look Like Me!
    01:00:27 – Should We Include Catholics In Church History? Mormons? JWs?
    01:04:25 – Need A Biblical View Of History To Be Fair To People Of History
    01:09:47 – The Hard Work Resulting From Church History Is Evident
    01:12:45 – The Great Good For The World Christians Have Done In History
    01:17:13 – The Judgement Of God When The Church Is Removed From Society
    01:20:38 – Where To Find Good Resources On Church History
    01:26:01 – Conclusion – Church History Matters!

    LINKS

    Revived Thoughts

    Martyrs & Missionaries
    Revived Devos
    Revived Radio
    Revived Thoughts Facebook
    Revived Thoughts Twitter
    MissionQuest – Support The Frasiers

    Cave To The Cross On Revived Thoughts

    Every episode we’ve done for Revived Thoughts can be found here – CaveToTheCross.com/RevivedThoughts

    Revived Thoughts Episodes Mentioned

    03:32 – Martyrs & Missionaries – The Rise and Fall of Christianity in Japan Part I

    03:32 – Martyrs & Missionaries – The Rise and Fall of Christianity in Japan Part II

    15:06 – David Livingstone: Who will carry on the work?

    15:06 – David Livingstone: The Heart Of Africa

    15:11 – George Matheson: The Patience of Job

    18:32 – Henry Grattan Guinness: Christian Charity (Feat. Dr. Os Guinness)

    29:46 – Anselm: The Storm of the Last Days

    30:00 – Deep Dive: The Story of Ethiopia

    01:21:44 – Lightkeepers Reviews & Links

    Books mentioned in this episode:

    The Life and Diary of David Brainerd by Jonathan Edwards

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    The Downgrade Controversy by Charles Spurgeon

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    All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com

    1 hr 30 min
  • Atheist Knows How God Would Act If He Did Exist – Ep.351 – The Great Debate – Stein’s 2nd Opening – Part 2

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2LjRWSlJaY

    Atheist Knows How God Would Act If He Did Exist

    Throughout this second part of Stein’s opening, he shows himself to be an atheist who doesn’t believe in God but definitively knows how that god would act if he did exist. Stein attempts to conflate logical contradiction with a psychological ickiness he perceives in the argument for God. Suffering, evil, justice, and how to act are things Stein knows how his made up god would act – a weird thing for someone who claims that he just lacks a belief.

    TIMELINE:

    00:00 – Introduction

    02:10 – All God Has To Do Is Appear To A Group Of People For Stein To Believe
    06:14 – Stein Is Just Using His Unargued Presuppositions
    10:00 – Stein Thinks He His god Wouldn’t Allow Suffering
    12:48 – Stein Doesn’t Provide His Basis For Evil Or Good Or Logic
    17:04 – Stein Doesn’t Think Sin Or Justice Is Fair
    20:55 – Stein Doesn’t Believe In God Because Of Religious Pluralism
    21:44 – Stein Sees Christianity As A Failure Because Christians Can Be Bad
    24:06 – Stein Should Ask These Questions To A Christian
    27:52 – What Does Stein Think He’s Left With?
    29:33 – Conclusion

    BOOK LINKS:

    The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows

    Debate Transcript Video

    The Bahnsen Institute

     

     

     

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    31 min
  • Where Can One Stand To Call Out Evil? – Ep.350 – The Great Debate – Stein’s 2nd Opening

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FSZ9FzXJPY

    Where Can One Stand To Call Out Evil?

    For the second opening to The Great Debate, Dr. Stein wants to call out Christians for not having any good proofs and also having a system that allows evil to be present in a world created by God. However, one must ask, where can one stand to call out evil? Or even good for that matter.

    TIMELINE:

    00:00 – Introduction

    02:34 – Two Main Cases For Why God’s Existence Hasn’t Been Proven
    03:34 – Long Period Of Time With Failure Of Main Arguments For God’s Existence
    06:37 – The Problem Of Evil Is An Issue For Theists
    08:02 – God Definitely Doesn’t Exist But If He Did Exist He Wouldn’t Allow Evil
    09:23 – Atheists Fail To Establish An Evil Standard Exists For Them To Use The Problem Of Evil
    12:57 – Stein Not Convinced Of Next Life Justice Takes Care Of Evil
    16:15 – Stein Allows For God Not To Be All Powerful – Uses Specific Christian Attack
    17:22 – Stein Does Not Buy The Free Will Defense – One That Bahnsen Didn’t Make
    18:04 – The Atheist Putting Onto The Christian Elements Of Their Worldview
    22:48 – Conclusion

    BOOK LINKS:

    The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows

    Debate Transcript Video

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    24 min
  • Stein’s Assessment So Far – Ep.349 – The Great Debate – Stein’s Rebuttal

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG2nDHh4eCg

    Stein’s Assessment So Far

    Now it’s Gordon Stein’s turn to assess the debate so far. With Stein’s assessment he believes that Bahnsen hasn’t offered anything other than feelings based arguments and non sequiturs. He doesn’t feel the need to offer an explanation for why the universe exists and he sees laws of science, logic, and math only as agreed upon by consensus items. Why? What’s wrong with that?

    TIMELINE:

    00:00 – Introduction

    02:34 – Does The Universe Require A Cause?
    03:56 – Looking For How God Created
    05:43 – God Is Very Knowable
    08:04 – Scientific & Logic Laws Are Just Consensus According To Atheist
    11:25 – Philosophical Death Is The Result
    12:33 – Math Is Also Consensus
    15:27 – An Atheist Universe Has Regularity Because Of Internal Properties
    16:56 – The Cause Of The Universe Must Be A Part Of It Says Atheist
    20:56 – Do Atheists Destroy All History Or Are Christians Only Feelings-Based?
    25:35 – Stein Finally Deals With The Transcendental Argument
    31:04 – Conclusion

    BOOK LINKS:

    The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows

    Debate Transcript Video

    The Bahnsen Institute

     

     

     

    All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com

    33 min
  • Bahnsen’s Assessment So Far – Ep.348 – The Great Debate – Bahnsen’s Rebuttal

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUQBHePyahM

    Bahnsen’s Assessment So Far

    Essentially round one is over and both debaters are going to give their take of the Great Debate. In Bahnsen’s assessment so far, he finds that Stein has not addressed his main argument for God and has also given up the debate with the idea that the laws of logic are just social conventions agreed upon by people. But – is that how people view logic and operate in their daily lives?

    TIMELINE:

    00:00 – Introduction

    01:25 – The Atheist Isn’t Debating The Christian Yet
    05:45 – Stein Hasn’t Dealt With Bahnsen’s Argument At All
    07:13 – Stein’s Problematic Atheist Idea Of The Laws Of Logic
    18:38 – The Atheist Unknowingly Gives The Win To The Christian By Convention
    21:11 – Conclusion

    BOOK LINKS:

    The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows

    Debate Transcript Video

    The Bahnsen Institute

     

     

     

    All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com

    24 min

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