In this enlightening episode, May Boeve sits down with Rashad Robinson, civil rights leader, and former president of Color of Change, for a conversation that spans legacy, leadership, and the long arc of movement work. They reflect on critical wins like marriage equality—and their limitations—while unpacking what it really takes to sustain cultural and political progress. This episode underscores that real power means more than presence—and the work never gets easier, only deeper.

Links to dig deeper, 

Rashad Robinson

Color of Change

GLAAD

About Julian Bond

About Black Voters Matter and LaTosha Brown

How We Build This is created and hosted by May Boeve

Producer: Phil Surkis

Theme music: ‘Within’, composed by Ruthie Dineen, and performed by Negative Press Project.

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