The word carer might evoke a professional at a home, or an elderly person taking care of a spouse.

But thousands of carers across the country are much younger than you think, even as young as four years old.

Madeleine Buchner was a child when she was thrust into a caring role: first for her baby brother, and later for her mother and grandmother.

By the age of 16, she founded Little Dreamers, an organisation to help support young carers.

Guest: Madeleine Buchner, founder and CEO of Little Dreamers