Changing the Rules

Tammi Brannan: [email protected]

Transcript

Diane Dayton  

This is changing the rules, a podcast about designing the life you want to live, hosted byKC Dempster and Ray Loewe the luckiest guy in the world.

KC Dempster  

Good morning, everybody. Welcome to changing the rules. I'm KC Dempster. And I am, we are on Wildfire Radio. And I have Ray Loewe with me and Ray is the self proclaimed luckiest guy in the world. I know it's killing him to hear me say that. But all through our lives, people have been giving us rules. First, it was our parents and teachers and sometimes the church or employers, and I'm sure there's a list of people that could be considered the rule givers. And for the most part, these rules were meant to control us but usually in a positive way. They were meant to give us structure and guidance and to keep us safe. But over time, as we get older, these rules start to lose their relevance and they can become rejected. active. So we, we've designed this podcast to help us build our own set of rules, those that are important to us, and that work for us. We all need rules, but they need to be rules relevant to us our rules. And when we change the rules to our rules, we become free and free to be ourselves. So good morning, Ray.

Ray Loewe  

Okay, and I am Ray Loewe and I am the real luckiest guy in the world dad. We'll get into that more. But, you know, changing the rules is is one of several major sets of attitudes, attributes and actions. I think I got those all right in here that the luckiest people in the world had do and feel. And there's a whole list of them and changing the rules is one. Now I've been studying the luckiest people in the world for most of my adult life. Why? Because I've always wanted to be one. That's why okay. And I've got enough data now that we can start to share this with other people. And and those luckiest people in the world always kind of grabbed my attention because they always seem to have it all together. And they had this aura of luck about that. And I just wanted to be there. These are the kind of people that I want to hang out with the kind of people that I want to, you know, model and emulate. And these people aren't born lucky. I haven't met any of them that are born lucky yet. And what they have though, is that they've taken this set of attitudes, the way they think, attributes, the way they are, and the way they feel, and the action. Those are the things that they actually put into place. And they learn them and they've developed them and they apply them to their life and all of a sudden they feel lucky. And luckier and luckier and I can tell you, the luckiest guy in the world feels Lucky, lucky and lucky. Every day, because these darn things work. Alright, so as we said, changing the rules is one, there are a whole lot more. And what we're going to talk about this time is we're going to talk about the luckiest people in the world are on a mission. Now, the luckiest people in the world, again, are those people that personally have designed their own lives. They take control, they live their life, to the max. They're not living other people's lives. They're living their life. And it's going to be interesting to see today, how having a mission makes a difference here, and we have a guest with us that we're going to bring on in a couple minutes to explore this concept of having a mission and I think it's time for a quick break and then we're going to come back with our guest Tammi Brannan

Diane Dayton  

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Ray Loewe  

Okay, I believe that we are right back and Tammi Sorry, I stumbled over your name before. But Tammy has been with us before. She is the developer of the blueprint process. And we're going to see what that is in a minute. And we're going to talk about how that's going to impact our ability to be the luckiest people in the world. So, Tammy, thanks for being with us today and say hi, Tammy.

Tammi Brannan  

Thanks for having me back. Ray.

Ray Loewe  

And that was quick. So So tell us a little bit more about the blueprint process. And and then let's talk about this thing about having a mission in life. I think the last time we hit you here We talked about the fact that people had to have a direction that they had to know what they want. And we kind of stumbled over that, because it's not an easy thing to do. And now we're going to add to the mix having a mission. So your work is cut out for you. And I just have to sit here and not do anything. It's wonderful.

Tammi Brannan  

I'm so glad that I can give you a day off, right. And so what I love about having a mission is that we all have one, we all have an inherent mission within us. And we talked last time about how the blueprint process really helps you identify what your zone is, you know, where your energy is spiking, where your energy is low. All of that really points to what your mission is. So again, this is something that you don't just sit down in 30 minutes and figure out you know, what is my mission? Why am I here on this planet? know it's something that over time you develop, you understand about yourself as you study your So you were just talking to Ray about how you've learned that your mission is to be the luckiest person in the world, and then also to help other people become the luckiest people in their world. And that is your mission. And so that really highlights for you what you need to do and what your rules are. Casey introduced the podcast talking about changing the rules and finding your own rules. Well, that's what your rules should really be built around is identifying your mission, your Why Why are you here? What value are you bringing to the world? What value do you want to bring to the world and then developing your rules around that? So now you know what to say yes, to what to say no to whenever you're at a crossroads because your eye is always focused on that mission on the horizon.

Ray Loewe  

Okay, so I've met a whole lot of people who get to this age that they call retirement and they say, Gee, I don't have to work anymore. I am Going to just take off, I'm going to enjoy my life. I'm going to go where I want to go and have fun. And most of them aren't very happy campus campers. But why is it such a wrong place to be?

Tammi Brannan  

Well, first of all, it means the up to that point, you haven't been the luckiest person in the world if you're not enjoying your life, so much so that now you have to take a break a permanent break from it, you have to retire from it. That means that up to this point, you haven't been choosing to be the luckiest person in the world. No shame, no guilt about that. But let's start doing something different now and really identify what is going to make me the luckiest person in the world going forward. And I totally get that if you've been working so hard doing something that you just don't really enjoy and so your energy takes every day. So every day you come home and you have to sit in front of the TV, just to kind to rejuvenate yourself, because your job sucks that much, then yeah, I totally get why you want to retire. However, that doesn't mean that work, any kind of work is going to do that to you. So as you're looking at the second stage in your life, consider maybe how work might actually bring you energy. What we know is that in order to stay engaged in life and to be the luckiest person in your life, you have to give of your value. You can't just totally check out I mean, you can, but trust me when I tell you, the satisfaction from that is very, very short lived. You will recognize after a very short period of time that you need to give you need to create that's what your mission is. That's why you're here. But you don't have to do it in a way that you don't enjoy. So to be the luckiest person in the world. It's learning what value do I have within me, but I love giving. It gives me energy to give it it doesn't mean You have to trade time for dollars. There's plenty of ways for you to get value without falling into that pattern. And without doing something that you hate doing that drains your energy.

Ray Loewe  

Yeah, you know, it's a shame. You're not passionate about this. I mean, I have the advantage of being able to see you and add the body language has just went on is incredible. I think you got that through the audio too. But a while ago, you sent me an email, and I like to read it right now. Because I think it's one of the problems that occurs when you don't have a mission in life. So you're you got this email from a friend of yours who ran and a daycare center for the elderly. Yeah. Okay. And she was talking about a resident that I guess it was kind of in the beginning stage of dementia. Okay. And she had enough memory though, to know that things were not right here. She just didn't feel right. And she was constantly talking about the fact that she didn't have anything to look for. Right? No mission. But But if her daughter had passed away, there was no husband, all the pets had died. She had just started to seek medical help to, uh, but she used to be a speech therapist, she loved the outdoors. She read a lot, you know, and all of a sudden, there's this world to live that just was lost. Absolutely. And I've seen so many older people do that. And this is not where you want to be. You don't want to have this kind of regret in life. So what do you do? All right.

Tammi Brannan  

And it's a great question. First of all, you got to recognize you're here for a reason. And that reason isn't done. And often when people retire, that's what they're thinking. They're thinking my use is over. I'm done with my work or I'm done done being a mom or You know a sister or brother or whatever, because that person is no longer living or you know, whatever that your use is not done. It's never done. And so if you want to be if you want to stay engaged in your life, if you don't want to end up like this lovely woman in the in the care home, then you have to recognize that within you inherent within you is value, its inherent value. And in order for you to stay engaged in life, you have to keep creating value. You have to get engaged with something that you're passionate and excited about. Ray was mentioning how he can see me gesturing and going crazy on my end of the camera, and it's because I have found my mission and whenever I talk about it, I my energy goes through the roof. Well, you listening you have a mission. When you tap into that mission, you'll tap into that energy and you will never feel tired. You will never want to retire You will never want to be done. Because just talking about that giving in that way, lights you. So, the question at this point is, do you need to make money? Or can you give without the need of making money? That's the question. Either with either answer no matter how you answered that question, then you have to ask yourself, what ways have I given value in the past whether you've traded time for dollars or not? What ways have you given value in the past whether it's to a friend, a son of a brother, whatever a client, what ways have you given value in the past that you have loved giving, that when you give in that way, it feels like you could keep on giving. You're like the Energizer Bunny. You could keep going and going and going banging that drum because you love banging that drum and that pink fluffy bunny suit, right? So whatever way in the past that you have given value that you have just gotten so How much energy from? Let's recreate that in your current existence? What can you do today? that utilizes some of those things?

Ray Loewe  

Okay, we have a break in the passion here.

KC Dempster  

Take a breath, right?

Ray Loewe  

Well, I'm sitting here listening to you, you know, and, and and I'm kind of kind of break ahead over here because one of the other characteristics of the luckiest people in the world is that they tend to follow what's fascinating and motivating. And it's an exact extension here of what you're talking about, you know, we all bleed other people's lives. And I think, listening to you that really hit home with me over here, when we're not doing the things that we're excited about. We're living other people's watch. Now, to some extent, you know, we may have to do that four times because we have to make a living we've got to make money for something, but living somebody else's life isn't fun. It doesn't give you the psychic benefits of anything. And what you're saying here is you pick out those things that fascinate you and motivate you. And now you figure out how to do those things for the rest of your life.

Tammi Brannan  

Amen. You said it.

Ray Loewe  

All right. So do you have a magic way of doing this?

Tammi Brannan  

Well, like I said, if you can study you, as far back as you can remember, both relationships and professional life volunteer experiences, start making a list of anything that you've done in the past, where someone has said back to you, Hey, you know what, you really helped me out there. Thank you so much that that just took a huge load off of my mind. When anytime that someone has given you that feedback, make a note of what it was that you were doing in that moment. And once you compile a list, give yourself a couple of weeks to kind of call your memory banks. Maybe reach out to some friends and family members and ask them What do you see that I bring to the table? Make sure though, that the only things you're writing down on your list are things that you love to do. If someone says to you, oh, man, you totally helped me when you did this. But you're thinking in your brain, oh, I'm glad I helped you. But that sucked. I hated doing that, then do not put that down on the list, right? I mean, you want the rest of you want the second stage of your life to make you the luckiest person in the world. So you only want to do things that you love to do. You, you can recreate your life today, based on these things. So once you create this list of things that you've done for others, that you also love doing, then you can start saying, Okay, what in the world would allow me to do these things? Do I create my own business? Do I go work for someone else? Do I volunteer at the pet shelter, you know, whatever. But you're basically creating a job description for yourself. That's what you're doing. By identifying all those things that you've done to create value for others over the years, that you've also loved doing yourself. You're creating a job description. And so now, ask yourself, Is this a job that exists somewhere out in the world that I could actually apply for? Is this a business that I could create? And again, checking in with yourself? What do I want to do? Do I want to have my own business? Does the thought of creating my own business really excite me? Then do that? If you'd rather just work for someone else, you know, nine to five, kind of leave the job there. Or maybe it's not nine to five, maybe it's 12 to four, then great, do that. Again, no matter what, not only with what you're doing, but also how you're doing it. It's based on you. It's based on what you want. And that's how you become the luckiest person in the world today.

Ray Loewe  

Okay, on there. All right, KC, any questions I have now or before, we're gonna have To break.

KC Dempster  

Yeah, we're getting low on time here.

Ray Loewe  

Yeah. So so basically what you're telling me is it all comes down to really defining who you are and what you want. That's, that's going to stage one. And then what we haven't really talked about is how you transition into doing this. You know, I've met so many people that are doomed to being unlucky for the rest of their life, because they can't seem to get out of where they are. But there's always a way to get out of where you are, isn't there?

Tammi Brannan  

Yes, absolutely.

Ray Loewe  

And I think what we need to do is we'll bring you back in a few more weeks. And we'll start to talk a little bit more about maybe how you do this. And I think a lot of these things are built into your blueprint process. And I know this is what you helped me to do you help me get a grasp on why I really feel lucky and why I'm the luckiest guy in the world. And what are these criteria and they've been floating around for years and years. And yours, and all of a sudden they're clear in my head. So thank you for that. And thank you again for being a guest on our show today. And let's do a quick break and come back and close up our show.

Diane Dayton  

You're listening to changing the rules with KC Dempster and Ray Loewe, the luckiest guy in the world. We will be right back with more exciting information.

KC Dempster  

Welcome back, everybody. I'm still kind of catching my breath. From all that information. It was really exciting, actually, is that

Ray Loewe  

it was word for it. It was actually kind of a rope of hope was we're gonna

KC Dempster  

We have to talk about that. But I wanted to say, the luckiest people in the world aren't born lucky but they do live exciting and fulfilling lives. And we believe it's because they've made the commitment to learn how to be lucky, but it's not enough just to make the one time commitment. being lucky is a continuing process. It's like a journey. And sometimes even lucky people get hit by life events that derail them. And they need was it Ray was it soap on a rope to get out of limbo?, the nature of being lucky in itself creates change. And most lucky people look to continuously expand their opportunities in their lives. This means meeting new lucky people sharing experiences, and learning from the experts and adjusting their own lives and changing their rules. So how are you going to help us learn to be lucky and stay lucky?

Ray Loewe  

Well, you join our luckiest people in the world community and, and you come to our website, www the luckiest guy in the world.com and you learn about our podcast and you listen to our podcast and you learn about our friends connection events, our travel connection events, our books, and take some porches. But, you know, the real place to start is right here on changing the rules. We can Have some fantastic guests like Tammy who just will wake us up and give us some insights into the kinds of things that we need to do to be the luckiest people in the world. So, join us in another week for changing the rules and we're going to introduce another of the luckiest people in the world. Thanks for being with us.

Diane Dayton  

Thank you for listening to changing the rules, a podcast designed to help you live your life the way you want, and give you what you need to make it happen. Join us in two weeks for our next exciting topic on changing the rules with KC Dempster and Ray Loewe the luckiest guy in the world.

Diane Dayton  

This is changing the rules, a podcast about designing the life you want to live, hosted by KC Dempster and Ray Loewe, the luckiest guy in the world.

KC Dempster  

Good morning, everybody. Welcome to Changing the Rules. I'm KC Dempster. And I'm here with Ray Loewe on Wildfire Radio, talking to you about changing the rules. And all through our lives, people have been giving us rules. First, it was our parents then teachers jumped in, and then the church and employers and I'm sure there are a lot of other people who've been setting rules as well. And these rules were meant to control us, but usually in a positive way. They were meant to give us structure and guidance and to protect us. But over time, a lot of the rules lose their relevance for us and they can become restrictive. Our podcast, Changing the Rules is designed to help us build our own set of rules, those that are important to us and work for us. We all need a set of rules, but they need to be rules that that relate to what we're doing in our lives, our rules. And when we change the rules to our rules, we become free, free to be ourselves.

Ray Loewe  

and what's better than being free to be ourselves, I might add. Okay, so I'm Ray Loewe and I am the luckiest guy in the world. And I have been tracking and studying luckiest people in the world for most of my adult life. And I found out that changing the rules is one of the major sets of attributes, attitudes and actions that are part of what makes up the luckiest people in the world. So I'm the luckiest people in the world I've been infatuated with because there are these people always seem to have it all together. You know, and and even when you look at them, they have an aura of luck about them and they're the kind of people you want to hang out with. And they're the kind of people you want to be Some people think these people are naturally lucky on my research says this is not true. They're not born lucky at all. And what they've done is they've developed this set of attitude attributes and actions that are learned and develop and apply. And they're not naturally changing the rules is one of them. But there are more. Now I'm going to get tongue twisted a number of times here because we've introduced this concept of attitude, attributes and actions to three days. So I'm going to try and get right KC and you can jump in and correct me if I get it wrong. But what do you define the luckiest people in the world. I define them as those people that personally designed their own lives. They step in and take control of their own lives, and they live their own life to the max. And they use this set of attributes, attitudes and actions to do this. Today we're going to introduce a new attribute here. And what we're going to talk about is that the luckiest people in the world know what they want. That's an interesting concept if you start thinking about it, because if you don't know what you want, how are you ever going to get it? All right? If you don't know what you want, how you gonna know when you get there, and then I'm confounded by the fact that it's a complex world and how the heck do you know what you want?

KC Dempster  

Right? Yeah, there are a lot of choices.

Ray Loewe  

Okay, what's your choices? Well, we have a guest expert with us today. My name is Tammi Brannan And we're going to bring her on in a minute. And I have to tell you that she is one of the luckiest people in the world. Right now from the get go. And we're going to take a short break here so that everybody knows who they're listening to. And when we come back, we're going to introduce Tammi and she is going to just kind of tear this whole thing apart and make us understand

Diane Dayton  

You're listening to changing the rules with KC Dempster and Ray Loewe, the luckiest guy in the world. We will be right back with more exciting information.

Ray Loewe  

All right, I think we're back. You know, the short breaks are nice, but I think we have to tell everybody that they're listening to the right people. So Tammi Brannan, you're on the line. I hope. I Hi,

Tammi Brannan  

Ray. Hi, KC. How are you? Good to see you.

Good to see that you're in your cafe in Paris. That's lovely.

Ray Loewe  

You can see this the rest of the world we're on a podcast here so we're hiding. Right. And the beauty of this is, guess what? We don't have to have our hair done. You know, I don't know about you, ladies, but mine's getting pretty long and scraggly and usually I keep it shaved down to the bare metal Ah, but

KC Dempster  

he's going to have a mullet before we know it.

Ray Loewe  

Whatever. So Tammi is joining us from the great state of Oregon. Right?

Tammi Brannan  

Absolutely.

Ray Loewe  

And we're at some ungodly hour in the morning there at this point in time, but but she's a farm girl. So she's awake, and she's with us. And Tammy, take a minute and tell us a little bit about this blueprint process. I could probably do it, but I'm not gonna do it as well as you do. And I have to say before you start, I'm the beneficiary of it. I've gone through it.

Tammi Brannan  

Well, it's interesting. You talked earlier about knowing what you want to be, that's what the blueprint process does. It helps you identify what it is that you want. You refer to me as a lucky one of the luckiest people in the world. And I very much appreciate that. And and I think it is because I know what I want, but it's taken me a long time. I'm 50 years old, and I started this process at 36 years old still not knowing what I wanted. And it's taken me up to this point. And I still feel like I've got more to go. And that's what's so exciting about life as an adventure is you're just constantly starting this feedback loop in your life where you know something, you learn something about yourself, you put it out there in your world, and it comes back to you is feedback and you recognize from that feedback, what fits and what doesn't fit. And then you, you try again, you put more back out there, and every time it's this evolutionary cycle that just continues to grow, and you get more and more clear on what you want, and how to be the luckiest person in your own life.

Ray Loewe  

You know, I think one of the problems with this is when you talk about people knowing what they want, is it's not a static thing. So I really think you just sit down and you plan and you figure out what I want, and then it kind of stays there. And that's not true at all right?

Tammi Brannan  

Right. Right, that leads to stagnation, which we know there's really no such thing as stagnation. You're either growing or you're dying. Right, right?

Ray Loewe  

Yeah. Okay, so So when you look at this and you, you say, how do you start? So? So? That's the question. How do you start? I don't know what to say.

Tammi Brannan  

Yeah, it's it's an enigma, isn't it? I mean, it feels like we should know, you know, we go through 12 years of education and sometimes even more you think that we would know we would come to this planet with some kind of owner's manual where it's super clear what our blueprint is and what we want in our lives and so forth. But I think that process of learning and discovering as necessary, we get some tough skin along the way, we get some humility along the way. And we learn more and more about ourselves. As you pointed out, it's an ongoing thing. I do have some what I refer to as blueprint hacks that do help a person self study, but it is challenging to do so. We are so close to who we are It is hard to see the forest for the trees. And so it takes outside perspectives to look in on us and help us really identify how we are unique in a sea of humanity.

KC Dempster  

Yeah, I know, personally that I'm, you know, I'm a little bit older than you are. And growing up, I don't know if it was societal or cultural. But you, you were not necessarily encouraged to care about what you wanted. You were supposed to follow these rules, and, you know, follow the societal blueprint. And you know, it's really hard sometimes. And I think that the even people that are younger than I am still faced it or are facing it, because it's just a mindset that a lot of people have is that you have to, you know, you're you're you are this and this is what you need to do. Yep.

Tammi Brannan  

Yep. Well said, it really goes well with the whole introduction that you gave about rules and other people setting rules for us. I mean, and like you said, it's well intentioned, but from our parents, to pastors to older siblings to school, there's just the sense that there's this model that you're supposed to fit in. And even after school, you're supposed to go to college or get married and have 2.3 Kids white picket fence job until you're 60. And then, you know, all that crud and, and it's hard to gain the confidence that you know what, now, in order to be the luckiest person in the world, you have to challenge those rules. You have to say which of these all of these really fit me and work for me?

KC Dempster  

Yeah, that's great. Okay,

Ray Loewe  

so how do we do this? So you know, you've gotten rid of one myth and that makes me feel better and I think it makes everybody feel better. It's it you don't sit down and decide who you are what you want. You just don't do that. You make some guesses at it. So what what's the process to start? Here I am I have no idea. Take me under your Land start with me.

Tammi Brannan  

All right. So first of all, I would say gain that confidence that in order to be the luckiest person in the world, you have to find your own way. And that is a little scary, that can be a little daunting, and recognize that not everybody does that, right? That's why they don't do it. Because it is kind of daunting to fly in the face of what everyone is telling you is right for you. How do they know? So recognizing, first of all, that you are your own genius, and you do know you can figure it out? So my super easy blueprint hack is Watch Your energy. Where does it spike? Where does it tank. If you watch that, you can literally do a diary tracking not only activities, but also relationships, obligations, volunteer, everything that you do in your life, from the moment you wake up to the moment you go to bed, track your energy, and real simply, I have people ranking on a scale of zero to five, five, being energy's really high after doing this particular activity. or interacting with this person, my energy is super high, all the way to zero which is oh my gosh, when can this thing and I drained of all joy right now. So zero to five then if you do that for honestly, the longer you do it the better, you know, but I say at least like a week to get a pretty good sense. And again, you're tracking personal professional, volunteer activities, relationships, everything. And then once you get this data, you can start to see a pattern where your energy is spiking or maintaining high at high level. It's an indicator to you that you're in what athletes often refer to as the zone. Okay, because each of us has a zone. It's not just those professional, highly paid athletes, all of us have a zone and it is in our blueprint when we're using our natural stuff. We're in our zone and our energy is maintained at a high level. So when you're trying racking that energy you can see when you're using your blueprint. And when you're not. And to become the luckiest person in the world, all you got to do is rearrange your life just slowly, one bite at a time, just like you'd eat an elephant. Right? just slowly get to a place where at least 80% of your day is in fours and fives on that scale.

Ray Loewe  

Wow. So I have to eat an elephant as part of this process. Yeah.

Tammi Brannan  

Yeah, one bite at a time, right? You can handle that.

Ray Loewe  

Okay, so if I'm sitting here and I'm saying, okay, I want to kickstart my life. There's, there's something that's not right here. I've been living under everybody else's rules all my life. They've been telling me what to do. And it's okay. I'm living their life and I don't have to think too much, right. I just do what everybody tells me to do, but it's not very fun now. So when I'm doing this, why energy is probably not the bottom right. I track this at a start tabulating where I see these spikes. Okay, then what?

Tammi Brannan  

Yeah. So what you're looking for is you're basically like a scientist studying yourself. So you got to kind of dawn that lab coat and that monocle and look from the outside in. So you're studying the data to look for what your blueprint actually is to give you insights on how to start, basically reconstructing your life. You can also look at yourself like a contractor who's doing a remodeling on a building, you're remodeling your life one room at a time. So if there's a relationship where your energy is really tanking, look at it objectively, if possible, like a scientist and study ask yourself because this is exactly what I did for me, is I asked myself what is missing in this relationship that makes my energy tank or what is missing in this job that's making my energy tank Just by studying anything that's ranking three or lower, is indicative of something that needs to change. And by studying the fours and fives, and studies the threes in low studying the threes and lowers, you can start to identify characteristics that are in the fours and fives and apply them to the things that are ranking three or lower. And basically what you're doing is you're starting to understand who you are, again, where your zone is, and how you can you'll get ideas, you'll get these little tiny steps that you can take that will take those threes and lower ranking and slowly next step them up to the fours and fives.

Ray Loewe  

Okay, so so once you observe all this, that's kind of part one, you figure out who you are and what makes you tick and what excites you. Why right there, what excites you? Yeah, and the whole idea is get rid of the drop dead, dead tears you down, start working more on the things that excite you, okay, so that's great, but now we have the whole rest of the world, telling us You can't do that. Right? Absolutely. Yep. So, so we have to make a change here. And, you know, I can see right now we're going to need about 10 podcasts with you not getting, we're not going to get enough time to do this. So I think what we're going to do is the mission that we learned in this particular adventure with you is that you track your energy, you see what excites you, what doesn't you make a list, and that starts to set out where you want to go. What? What is step one in designing your own life?

Tammi Brannan  

right? Absolutely. Amen.

Ray Loewe  

Okay. All right. KC, do you have any last questions because we're getting up against a ton of work here.

KC Dempster  

No, I don't. I think that this is really helpful. And I guess the the hardest thing is to kind of open people's minds. So hopefully the series is going to do that.

Ray Loewe  

Okay, so I think what we're going to do is we're going to end this particular session now, and we're going to have you back and we're going to record several of these. And in fact, I think what we're going to try to do is do one so that we can hear them back to back here, cuz Ah, Tammy wisdom is good wisdom. Ray, I'm honored. Okay, so show Tammy, thank you for being with us today. And Bobby back with Morgan information.

Diane Dayton  

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KC Dempster  

Welcome back, everybody. And I wanted to take a minute to say that the luckiest people aren't born lucky. We've agreed on that. But they do live exciting and fulfilling lives. We believe it's because they've made the commitment to learn how to be lucky, but it's not just enough to To make the one time commitment, it's a continuing process. It's a journey. And sometimes even lucky people get hit by life events that derail their journey and they need. I'm sorry to say this a rope of hope to get out of limbo. The nature of being lucky in itself creates change. Most lucky people look to continuously expand their opportunities and their lives. This means meeting new lucky people sharing experiences, and learning from the experts and adjusting their own lives. So Ray, how do you learn to be lucky and stay lucky?

Ray Loewe  

Well, the first thing you do is learn about the rope of hope. You mean Oh, yeah, I put that in there on purpose because I thought that would die that derail you this morning and add a little levity to our, our podcast. But what we're talking about here is to stay lucky and be lucky. You have to do some things and we've set this all out for you. So the first thing you want to do is subscribe and really changing the rules. And you're going to hear people like Tammy, one of the luckiest people in the world. And she's going to talk to you about how she changed your life. And and what are the things that she did to become luckier and luckier and luckier. And then the next thing you're going to do is you're going to target our friends connection of that. Right now, we're not doing a real French Connection event this year, we usually do a big one day workshop, where we get the luckiest people in the world together. And we exchange ideas and we we get some great speakers in to keep us on track for being lucky and lucky or unlucky or, but we are doing some virtual ones. And you're going to want to stay tuned and go to our website to do that. We'll give you that address in a couple minutes. We also do every year French travel connection. That's a trip where we actually get a chance to go and see the world through the eyes of other lucky people as well as ourselves. It's an amazing An amazing event is being postponed because of our virus right now a little bit, but we're going to bring it back with a vengeance. We have several books that can help you get started. And you can take one of our discovery session courses, which will help you become lucky and luckier and luckier. But the big thing is stay tuned to www the luckiest guy in the world.com. And that's where you can get updates on things and stay tuned to changing the rules where next week we'll be back with a great guest one of the luckiest people in the world, and he or she are going to tell you what to do to become luckier and luckier and luckier. So we'll see you next week, everybody.

Diane Dayton  

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Diane Dayton 

This is changing the rules, a podcast about designing the life you want to live, hosted by KC Dempster and Ray Loewe, The Luckiest Guy in the World.

Ray Loewe 

Good morning, everybody. This is Ray Loewe and I am The Luckiest Guy in theWorld. And we're already changing the rules because KC, usually starts this intro, and we're not letting her do that today. She's got a much more important role. She's been moved up in the chain and we're going to hear from her in a little while.You know, I've mentioned many times that I am the luckiest guy in the world. The Luckiest Guy in the World is a state of mind. It's a state of being, it's how you feel. Later today we're going to introduce another one of the luckiest people in the world. Over the next several weeks, we intend to bring a number of luckiest people in In the world on the podcast. There are more than one of us floating out there.  And one of the things that you're going to find as we talk to these people, is that there are certain characteristics that describe the luckiest people in the world. We're going to focus on three today because Kris Parsons, who is our guest, exemplifies three of these things. One is that the luckiest people in the world don't have a problem with changing the rules. They have the ability to deal with change in a number of ways. One, is they can change the rules when need be, but they can also work when other people change the rules on them. Okay? And they don't let rules get them down. One of the things that I believe is as soon as you control the rules, you get the freedom to be you and that is one of the largest characteristics of the luckiest people in the world. They do their thing and they do it well.  The second characteristic is also a really critical and an important one. For some reason, the luckiest people in the world, always, always, always find a positive solution to problems. You know, most of the world sits around and they deal with all of the issues that are there and they focus on the problems. But luckiest people in the world don't do that. I saw a great little clip the other day, and it was about a teacher who gave her class a quiz. She handed out papers, and they were all facedown. When the kids were told to turn over the papers, there were no questions. There was a black dot in the middle of a white page.Then the teacher said, "I want you to write a story about what you see." Every kid in the class wrote about the black dot. When the teacher came back is she said, you know, the black dot could be important, but you missed the white spaces. And you're going to notice that the black dot is one little dot in the center, and the white spaces are all the rest. W e see that today we we see it on the news, often we focus on the black dots. we talk to people and they focus on the black dots. There's so much good stuff going on, and you're gonna find that our luckiest person in the world today focuses on the whitespace. It's because she's angelic, but that's another matter.  The third piece, and this is really critical piece, is you're going to find the luckiest people in the world always have a plan. Now the plan doesn't always work the way you want it, but the plan does focus on a very definite direction that they want to go. It focuses on a number of things that they want to achieve. It focuses on kind of how they're going to get there. But they also have a playbook in here that says, when the game changes, and the rules change on me, and my plan falls apart, my plan doesn't fall apart. Because I got the game plan to fall into place, and I'm ready to move. And and finally in here, it's not just the plan, it's the action steps to put it in place. So these are the characteristics of the luckiest people in the world. Some of them as the ones we're going to focus on today. And Taylor, we're going to take a break, and then we're going to come back with KC Dempster, who's been elevated to star roll status here.

Diane Dayton 

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Ray Loewe 

And guess what? We're right back and Diane always makes me feel better. She makes me feel luckier for some reason. So KC Dempster you're going to take on the role of introducing Kris Parsons. You're going to take this message that Kris has, and you're going to get it in front of our listeners today. So say hi to everybody and take over please.

KC Dempster 

You know, Ray, I think that you supposedly elevated my status so that you could talk more.

Ray Loewe 

You I think you got it right. Nothing is free, right.

KC Dempster 

Well, good morning, everybody. This is KC Dempster. And I guess I'm a starring role. And I'd like to take a minute and introduce somebody that you've already heard from before. It's our good friend Kris Parsons of Parsons, PR and today we're featuring Kris because she has some interesting insights to share with this whole business of changing rules and everything that Ray just talked about at the beginning. So welcome, Kris.

Kris Parsons 

Hello, thank you for having me today. 

KC Dempster 

Ray has kind of outlined a three, step focus of this whole business of the luckiest people in the world and how they deal with changing rules. And, you know, we often are encouraging people to change the rules themselves, but sometimes it happens to them, as it has been this has in this pandemic. So talk a little bit about this has affected you.

Kris Parsons 

Yeah, sure. Well, yeah, right. I mean, we talked about changing the rules, but as Ray said earlier, the rules were changed for us with this pandemic. And, in the PR world it's, you know, a lot of changes. For instance, we are mostly a face to face business on a lot of levels. I mean, I do events, I meet with people, we strategize together, I have many lunch and coffee meetings and that's how I network. That's how I get new business. That's how how I work with people. And so you know, that changed abruptly. Another thing is a lot of my my work in Parsons PR is doing events, big events. In fact, I had to cancel quite a few, including one that was 700 plus people at the Lincoln Financial Field. So that's tough. All that has changed. We've postponed them, we've cancelled them. And what's a little difficult is there's no definite date of when they're going to be rescheduled. So that was a problem, so to speak. And, then obviously, a big part of my world as a PR person is talking to reporters on a daily and weekly basis. Well, to say that they're otherwise engaged with this pandemic is an understatement. I mean, they're, they just are not available and they're going through some tense times being working to 24 hours trying to gain information. So that's changed drastically. So yeah, there's quite a few changes that have happened in the PR world.

KC Dempster 

So, what are the you know, you had you had to cancel an event. And one of the other changes was that you had a client, I think that's located in Brooklyn, and we're here in South Jersey. So all of a sudden, you weren't driving two hours to go visit clients either.

Kris Parsons 

Right? Right. Well, and then, you know, going kind of into how these, as Ray says, luckiest people in the world find opportunity and not dwell on the problem. I think after we all got over the initial shock of our lives changing and making sure our family and friends and everybody was safe, you have to start thinking about the opportunities and some of the opportunities are that Yeah, you can do a lot of my job on a virtual basis. And you can still connect with everybody but in a different way. In fact, I like to call myself now a zoom meeting master. Where I have done more zoom meetings in the past two months than I think in my whole life and, yes, while I know technology, I know how to do it, there was a lot I had to learn. There was a lot the people on our meetings had to learn. And ironically, I found it rather empowering. I found that kind of interesting figuring out how to do stuff and noticing, oh, if we do this, this happens and, researching the different platforms. I mean, I've been a marketing executive for you know, 20 some years and, you know, you do think you know, almost everything but you're never never too old to learn. And I think that's one of the things that keeps us the luckiest people in the world and also keeps us young. You could always learn at any age and there's always something new and every time you learn something new, that knowledge, I think, empowers you to some extent you feel like, Oh, I didn't know I could do that and I can, and then you start to embrace it. In fact, in fact, going forward, I think we're probably going to have more virtual meetings and they will be much more acceptable because we had to do them because of this rule changing. But I think going forward, they might work out to be certainly economical, certainly efficient. We don't have to run like you said two hours to a meeting andall that travel time that makes you late for meetings and whatnot this way if we do more virtual things, and we up the technology, so it looks like you're really talking to somebody and you can see the reactions and you can see their tone of voice and all that. You know, it's fine. You're still conveying the same kind of information. In fact, you might even get more done. When you're when you're doing it virtually, Don't you thin, Ray? Or you can play Solitaire to while you're doing your meeting.

Ray Loewe 

I think You're talking about where you're going with the plan, take a couple minutes and focus in on some of the opportunities that you uncovered about different ways of doing things. And you were talking a little bit in here not only about being a zoom master and that you had to develop these technology skills, but I think you have some clients that you have to work differently with.

Kris Parsons 

Right, right. Okay. Well, for instance, actually, you were one of them. The I you know, we had the wonderful Friends Connection planned for April 17. Last Friday, no two Fridays ago, I guess. And yeah, that was gonna be a fabulous event. We were scheduled at the Marriott at the Olde City. We had a whole day of wonderful food and cocktail parties and incredible speakers and we were going to talk about some wonderful subjects. We had people already signed up. So, you know, we took it a different level. And we decided to do a virtual preview. I mean, obviously not the same thing. But we've got 30 some people on a virtual meeting, we had a couple of our sponsors who graciously decided to come in and speak a little bit. We did a modified version. And I think it was it was successful. I think people got a taste of what, would happen when they went to the real Friends Connection. And we were able to connect, we're able to hear a little bit about what the speaker said, and you know, kind of whip that up in, in two weeks, which I thought was quite well done. So, so yeah, I mean, that was very exciting to do, and, you know, hopefully, we can do some more things like that, until we can get back to normal.  I think I've also been, I'm sorry, No, go ahead. I was also gonna say I've, found, you know, obviously because we're now all online,. and we're all working on computers and our phones and Facebook and Instagram and, everything we've had to rely on that. And a lot of people have in fact, I have one client. It's a restaurant. It's Spicy Affair Indian Cuisine down in Swedesborough. And we have really taken the Facebook to a new level, the social media we jumped right on it. And we related exactly to what was going on. We didn't lose the communication with our customers. We immediately talked to them we, you know, tried to make sure to see how they were feeling and giving them some comfort and we immediately upped our takeout and delivery game and, really said, Look, we're here for you and we're doing lots of takeout. We even delivered a lot of food to healthcare workers at Inspira, Mullica Hill. So we embraced this problem and found ways to make it positive and our Facebook followers have gone up dramatically. So that was an opportunity to look at social media in a different way and have your comments not just be slapping up the same old, same old; have it relate to what's going on. So that means paying attention to the current affairs and then relating that to what's going on. In fact, aren't you? Aren't you going to be doing some some custom facemasks Ray? 

Ray Loewe 

Well, yeah, we are. But before we get there, I'm kind of laughing to myself here because you're, you know, everybody else...We look at all these restaurants and all they're all whining about, you know, how they're going out of business, how they're, you know, how they're going to do things. Now, some of them that picked up the pieces, okay, and are doing interesting things you did in this particular case, you know, you've got here you got a client and i, you mentioned the word affairs before and I got a kick out of it because the name of the restaurant is A Spicy Affair, you know, and what you've done is you're not wallowing in the problem. What you're doing is you're saying out there, there is a positive solution. Let's go find it. And people are around. So you hit social media, right? I mean, you know what, oh, people don't have other things to do. They're heavy into social media today. You know, you do you've done the freebie for other workers. Now that's not entirely original. But you know, you're out there and you did it. And I think mentioned to me also that this particular client is doing extremely well with their takeout business. The business is not suffereing, Okay, like everybody else is.

Kris Parsons 

Well, and what's interesting, I'll let you in on a little secret. Well, not a secret because we've talked about it on social media but they are opening a new location on Main Street in Swedesborough. They've renovated a beautiful bank. And they're going to be it's just going to be wonderful. Part of what I was doing was planning this really grandiose, grand opening that we were hoping to have in May or June. Well, now I think that's going to be moved back. But this also gives them an opportunity to do some of the renovations. And keep in mind some of the new things that are going to be different. I mean, maybe the tables will be a little further apart, maybe we'll install some additional safety and health things in the bathroom, you know, non touchable things and whatnot. So I'm able to be there with them as we're hearing the stories from the government of what what's going to be changing and we can maybe assimilate some of that into the new place, have a little bit more time.  And the first thing we're doing is working on the takeout because I don't think we're going to open right away even if people are allowed to, we want to wait and get it right. So we're going to take our time and rely on the takeout business for a while so we can do that. properly. So yeah, it's a different way of looking at things. And also I think, you know, we're we're trying to connect with people. And I think that's the whole basis of Friends Connection, we're being very sensitive to what we're saying to people. I mean, we're letting them know that, hey, we're out there for you. If there's anybody in need, let us know, we'll send them a free meal. You know, and I think that was some of my other clients. We're letting them know that we're here with you. And I think like you said, it's not original, other people are doing it, but it was something that we jumped on right away. Because, you know, we are all connected on some level everybody. And we have to, you know, show our sensitivity.

KC Dempster 

And, Kris, I know that you work with another company to put on these big events that you do have what happened to them. I mean, what changes are they going to have to make with events do you think,

Kris Parsons 

right well, that's that's, that's actually that's kind of moving into my area of What's the plan? You know, like you said, if this crisis has taught us anything, you do need a plan. You definitely need a plan. And that's been your mission and motto before this even happened. That was what changing the rules is all about. We need a plan in life in every stage of our life. So...

Ray Loewe 

Before you go into the plan, I picked up a couple other things that we talked about the other day. So you've got a couple kids at home, alright, with you. Talk about what's changed in the educational field. And you know how this impact your life. 

Kris Parsons 

Oh, right. Yeah, no, that's a good point. And in fact,  I want to send out kudos to the education community because I'll tell you what I mean, yes. You know, the health care workers beyond a doubt are heroes, our sanitation people, everything, but I was really impressed being the parent of two college students, how the education system really jumped into gear And with very little downtime, got this whole Virtual Learning up and running. I mean, you know, what is today still Tuesday? I mean, right now in my house, everybody's in their respective rooms, offices, and they're, they're taking classes, they're listening to lectures, they're taking tests, they're doing papers. It's really, you know, education-wise, my kids are still on board. And, they're in there for their classes. And I was pretty impressed and I have a lot of friends in the neighborhood, my neighborhood who are teachers, you know, elementary, middle school, high school teachers and they are busy, they are on their computers, they are teaching their kids you know, they are like, Look, we are not going to have that setback. We're gonna do it. You know, the only difference is they're they're learning in their pajamas.

Ray Loewe 

You have to feed them. 

Kris Parsons 

Well, yeah, that's Yeah, that's that's a little bit of the downside. Growing boys. 

Ray Loewe 

So trips is supermarket or not out of your life, even with this

Kris Parsons 

...very creative with cooking.

Ray Loewe 

You helped us make a change that I found interesting because, again, you can't get out and see people. So we've been doing coffee and cocktails. You were highly involved in that. Thank you very much. And talk a little bit about that. And, you know, kind of why we had to do that.

Kris Parsons 

Right. Well, well remember in the very beginning when I said part of my job in PR is networking, meeting people going out having lunch meetings, dinner meetings. It's a huge part of my world. And I think it's a huge part of everybody's world and it's fun. I think we've made it in that was great. We've made it kind of casual. Ray even has interesting backdrops. In fact, I want to go to that bar that you have as one of your backdrops because it's fantastic. 

Ray Loewe 

As soon as we're allowed Kris.

Kris Parsons 

But in that and just just to explain those some some listeners what that is, what we do is we invite, you know, six to eight people every Thursday to either jump on at 8:45 in the morning for a coffee hour. And then again later that day at 4:45 that way we only need to take a shower, you know, for that one day. And it's a virtual coffee hour and a virtual happy hour and everybody brings their own coffee and brings their own drinks and hors d'oeuvres, and we just talk and I love how Ray has structured it. that it's it's not scripted. It's very casual. And we just have some conversations come out of it and you'd be surprised what what we talked about. Some of them are great, they're they're interesting, they're diverse. And then after the fact we share the emails and contact information with everybody that was on the call. That way, if you want to network and have your own separate little private conversation afterwards, you can. So right there, that gives me the opportunity to network. It gives other people the opportunity. In fact, I think we've had a couple connections, right? People have called other people about something. There was one woman that does a does a calendar or cookbook or something. And I think we connected people with somebody else who wanted to do that as a gift. So it's fascinating. And then the nice thing is, we don't really know what's going to come out of it. And isn't that the same way when you have networking events and you meet people? You don't exactly know what's gonna come out of it, but you end up connecting with people.

Ray Loewe 

Yeah, no, you know, there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that can't go out and network anymore. That used to be a part of my life. Well, that's a bunch of junk because you can, you just got to do it differently and you get the brain trust together. And all of a sudden, these ideas come out of nowhere.

KC Dempster 

Kris, I think he just called us a brain trust.

Ray Loewe 

Yeah, enjoy that while it lasts. One of the biggest benefits I think of virtual coffee in the morning is you can eat virtual pastries. I had the best cream filled donut the other day, and no calories, no effect on my diet at all. And I could almost taste it

KC Dempster 

almost being the keyword.

Kris Parsons 

Right and you just hope that pastries in somebody else's house, right?

Ray Loewe 

Yeah, you know, I'm kind of looking at notes here to try and figure out what we missed because there were, there were so many ideas. And, again, we're in this section here about taking, finding the solution that's positive. And so many people sit on their rear ends during this thing, they don't do anything. Okay? And yet, this is a perfect opportunity to continue doing what you do and do more. And I think one of the things that you mentioned is how much less travel you're doing now, because you're doing virtual meetings and how much money that saves your clients, and how much time it saves you. And guess what? You don't have to fix the hair in the morning as much. Okay? video cameras are a little more forgiving than face-to-face. All right, and we can all get away without deodorant if we want.

KC Dempster 

All right, Ray, we're getting a little too personal here. All right, let's talk about the plan.

Ray Loewe 

What? Okay, so talk about the plan.

KC Dempster 

Well, and then I was just gonna say that the luckiest people in the world always need to have a plan. And so with Kris, what what's the plan going forward? Now that you've discovered all of these opportunities for your business? What's your plan going forward?

Kris Parsons 

Right, well, well, like you said, Yeah, One of the things that that I found out which I was a little surprised people, not everybody has a crisis communications plan. I was surprised. I thought most people did, but they don't. And so even even a crisis communications primer, like if something like this happens, how do you communicate? I mean, the one thing that doesn't change, and in fact, it gets enhanced in situations like this is the ability to communicate clearly and concisely. And so you know, you have to, tell a whole bunch of people, you have to tell your staff, you have to tell your constituents, you have to tell your donors, you have to tell your supporters. I mean, when we decided to cancel the Friends Connection and make it virtual, you know, we had to figure out okay, what's the plan? Do we send out a group email? Do we send a group email to these people first, and then these people? How do we communicate that we've changed the rules, so to speak, and so that's the one thing I'm focusing a little bit more on. I mean, that's what I'm offering now to clients is, I'll probably put together a crisis communication primer for you. So, when something like this happens, you can just pull out your primer and say, Okay, this is step one, step two, step three, and step four, when something like this happens, you know, because every every crisis is different, you're gonna have to customize them all, but, but you really need to be able to clearly and concisely communicate with your constituents and your staff and donors and whatnot. And you have to do it in a way that's not going to cause too many repercussions. So that's kind of a plan and a new plan for me. And then we were talking a lot about events and I work very heavily with with a woman, Sharon McCullough. She's the president and CEO of Expert Events. She does you know, huge fundraisers for colleges, for nonprofits. In Philadelphia, New York, Washington, DC, Virginia, she's quite skilled in that area. So she and I have been strategizing now like, how are we going to do this? How are we going to...events, I don't think events, big events particularly are going to be the same for a while. So we are offering an event assessment. In other words, we will sit with you at no charge. And we will talk to you about Okay, what do you have planned on an annual basis? What DID you have planned on an annual basis? Let's look at it. Well, we won't charge you for this. We'll look at it. We'll see what we can do. How do we need to adjust them going forward? Because I don't know about you guys. Trying to be positive is one thing, but I don't think this is going to. We're not going to come out of this in the next few weeks. I think things are going to change. And it's going to be a while until we get a vaccine that's going to be a while. So we can do things the same. And so we want to assess the situation and see how we can help people raise money, do their events, assess them and see which ones work or will work and in which ones won't work, and what can we do to change it and how we can incorporate is a virtual situation that people are willing to pay money to see something virtually,

Ray Loewe 

You know, can you take a minute you're telling me about an event now this this is not going into the future, but it's something that happened in the past that I think it's you can take into the future. It was a about a virtual event that you had where you had live music on one of the big radio stations, TV, you had an event, you know, talk about it, because the way fundraising is going to be done has to change. And I don't think your clients can't wait for two years to come out of the new normal because they have budgets and they can't wait to raise money. So you know, we're not going to go drink together at a big gala dinner where we all get dressed up. I don't know that I really liked those anyway. But, but

Kris Parsons 

You don't like to wear a tuxedo, I know.

Ray Loewe 

Well, you know if i if i were playing baccarat in the right casino, yes. Okay.

KC Dempster 

Okay James Bond let Kris talk about this event that she did.

Ray Loewe 

Yeah, it was a phenomenal idea and and maybe it's gonna come back.

Kris Parsons 

Well, interestingly and ironically this was years and years ago and kudos to a wonderful, wonderful colleague and boss of mine who I will never forget Robert Capana, of Settlement Music School. They had a virtual concert where you listened to classical performers, classical music being performed at the Hotel Atop the Bellevue, but you listened to it on w RTI radio, which was classical radio at the time, and then you followed along in the Philadelphia Inquirer, a full page where you followed along the program and there was also a little contest for little kids to listen along because they were hoping to get more kids reading the paper, clues to the answers were in the live broadcast. And you listen to it from home, you followed along on the radio, and you followed along on the page in the Inquirer and then obviously you made donations to the, to the school. And ironically, though, people loved it so much, they did it for several years, people loved it so much that they wanted to be able to attend it as well. So it became a live event where we had, you know, 200 to 300 people there, but you also could listen to it at home and you also could follow along on the in the paper, but, you know, obviously that we could do that again, but then minus the live the live part, 

Ray Loewe 

but the live part will come. It's exactly, it's you know, what goes around comes around sometimes. And I when you were talking about that the other day, I'm just sitting here thinking wow, What a great idea to bring back for people who want to raise money. You know, we've got the media, we've got the newspapers, newspapers are struggling, let's give them some business. You know, we have the radio and TV stations that I don't know if you've watched TV lately, but the pickings are really not real good. Okay. And I'm ready for a classical music event, you know, believe me, I'm ready. 

Kris Parsons 

I think they've done some of that. I mean, that whole thing that Lady Gaga put together for the World Health Organization. And that was a monumental task of bringing all those people together, The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, everything was virtual. It was pretty seamless. I was pretty impressed with that. So yes, I think that's, that was a new idea years and years ago, but now I think it's going to become a much more popular event. And I do think people are doing that I do think organizations are doing I think Settlement Music School already did something online as well.

KC Dempster 

And I just heard a news thing this morning where apparently people that are into video games are,that's becoming a fundraiser, I think there was a Fortnight event where celebrities were playing...

Kris Parsons 

out for them. So there's been some poker games and whatnot. So yeah, I mean, it's really, people are resourceful and like you said, given challenges, I'm just so impressed how people rise up to them. And they do you know, it's a tough time. It's a scary time. But, boy, you gotta love the American spirit that people are rising up to do this

Ray Loewe 

well and so the luckiest people in the world that are making things happen. So this is why you are one of the luckiest people in the world. Well, you know, you think about what you've done and you broke it, you kind of broke it down in a nice way for us. Number one, there was a problem. All right, all of a sudden, the world came to a screeching halt, and you had to sit down and figure out what the heck is going on. And then the second thing and this is what sets you apart from many, many other people is what's the solution? And what's the positive solution? It's not just hiding under your bed. Right. Okay. And, and there are a lot of people that are doing that today. So what the luckiest people do is they go on out and they create and they come up with these positive solutions. And some of it is creating,..some of it is just digging it out. Some of it in the case of you know, the music event that you're talking about, maybe going back into history and and saying what was there?  It's interesting to me how your plan has changed, but yet you have a plan. Right? Yeah. You know, I really loved the idea that you know, you've recognized that people here are, they don't have a disaster plan. They don't have one?

Kris Parsons 

Yeah, I was surprised. I was surprised. I mean, some people But I was surprised how many did not.

Ray Loewe 

Well, I I think it's natural. We don't want to face the disaster, but here we are, we're facing the disaster. So So here's a business opportunity that will be part of your plan. And you know, the big event thing. It fascinates me the way you're attacking it. So kudos to you. You know, you, you are one of the luckiest people in the world. And you know, this, it has nothing to do with luck, does it?

Kris Parsons 

No, no, it does. It does have to do with lot of hard work. And it's always thinking and you're right. And you do have to, you do have to kind of discipline yourself a little bit, right? Because you're right, you could you could, it's very easy to, you know, sit by the refrigerator, in your pajamas and eat bonbons and say, oh, gosh, I can't deal with this. But you have to sort of say Alright, this is what we're going to do. This is how we're going to change. This is a new way of figuring out how to make money. And it's it's good and I and I have to tell you, I think you know, I'm encouraged by all these different businesses and i and i love it Ray, that you're going to be doing this and you made me your first guinea pig on this, I think it's going to be interesting to see how many industries are doing business a little differently from now on. And it will be interesting to hear some of these people I hope, I hope they're going to be guests on your show to see how they're they're dealing with things in education and finance and entertainment and travel. How are they going to be doing things in the new normal?

Ray Loewe 

Well, we're gonna we're gonna take a break and when we come back, stay in the conversation, Kris, because you're gonna be able to contribute to some of this stuff. And KC, you certainly but, Taylor, we're going to take a break and come back with the French Connection, please.

Diane Dayton 

This is changing the rules. Stay tuned to learn more about the Friends Connection and how you can be a part of this valuable life experience.

KC Dempster 

Well, I'm gonna jump in here and say welcome back because even though I have a starring role I haven't been able to talk very much have I?

Kris Parsons 

No?

Ray Loewe 

Well, you're gonna get to talk a lot here. Let me let me bring up a couple of items and then just get your brain working and expound. Okay. So the first thing I want to say here is that the luckiest people in the world hang out with other people who make them feel lucky. So this is one of the reasons we wanted to have Kristine on the show today. Okay, because here she is she's doing things I feel lucky or right now I have ideas running through my head. Okay. She talked to us.

KC Dempster 

Well, you know, there's a character from Saturday Night Live called Debbie Downer. And it was very funny to watch. There's such a kernel of truth to that if I did used to get together with a bunch of women, and there was one person in that group who was Debbie Downer. I mean, if somebody mentioned that they knew somebody, it was themselves or someone in their family or friends that had a problem. She had a worst problem. You know, it was just she was just such a bummer that I ended up and this was a this was a group that got together for almost 30 years. I, I joke about it, I say, I divorced them. I had to leave because she the one person was just dragging us down. And so yeah, you want to you want to hang out with people that are uplifting and that aren't sucking the air out of the room.

Ray Loewe 

Yeah, you know, and this was the purpose of our Friends Connection conference. You know, it's all about having conversations. We can sit here and brainstorm with ourselves. And, you know, I'm sure that that was a big part of your plan. Kris, I mean, you got to sit there with your self and talk to you, right? Because you are one of the luckiest people in the world. So you're hanging out with somebody good, but but sooner or later, you got to take that and you got to share that with other people. Because luck feeds on luck. And one of the biggest things we do with our Friends Connection conference is we get a good group of lucky people together. And we talk about why we're lucky and we talk about how we can help each other be luckier. And one of the things that was intriguing today about listening to you, is that you've taken several real downers here and turned them into uppers without drugs. You don't know that for sure. That's true. But you know, KC talk a little bit about this Friends Connection and what happened at the last one, and what we're doing about the next one.

KC Dempster 

Well at the last one, there was a little bit of a technical difficulty. I won't go into a lot of detail, but apparently I was not able to mute myself at an appropriate time. And I was trying to handle a problem with somebody who was having trouble getting onto the call. And so everybody on the call could hear me. So what we're now doing is we are exploring different platforms.

Ray Loewe 

Yeah, but she now everybody knows how important you are really. So you know, this whole concept of having people like Kris here and talking about how you how you take the doubters and turn them into offers, and then more important, put them in a plan. We're going to do that again, with people from different industries, because it's the same problem, but it's different. This Friends Connection thing where we don't know where we're going to go with it. Obviously, we would love to all meet in a group and wine to dine each other and be able to exchange ideas. But it may have to be virtual for a while and we'll explore how to do that and we'll get people like Kris to come on board and talk about how they're attacking the world today in a positive way. And I'm just excited about the whole thing. I mean, I, I really feel like the luckiest guy in the world. And it's because I associated with the luckiest people in the world. So thank you. All

KC Dempster 

Right. Nothing like a crisis to bring out the best.

Ray Loewe 

OK diva.Why don't we let her to sign off for us. And I promise we'll let you talk more next week.

Kris Parsons 

She's the star you know, she's the star of the show.

KC Dempster 

Yeah, I'm gonna have to start wearing diva so that you remember. But I definitely want to thank you, Kris, for being our guest today. You really had a lot of valuable and interesting information to share with us. And I know that you will be certainly participating with us a lot more in the future. And Ray, always a pleasure. And I would invite everybody Everybody to subscribe to our podcast. Tell your friends to subscribe to our podcast because we have a lot of great stuff going on here. And we'll be back in two weeks and don't miss it. 

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