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In this mini episode, Lou and Kimi revisit the story behind Chaos and Creativity and reflect on the power of origin stories. The ones that are messy. The ones that take time. The ones that remind us why we do the work.
It started at the bar at The Buckeye Roadhouse. Lou and Kimi, a bottle of red, and a lot of chaos.
Now, many years later, we got to thinking… where does a creative journey really begin?
Do origin stories give us a sense of hope? Do they help us find happiness, or explain why people become who they are for better or worse? Is there always a bit of magic in the beginning, or sometimes a reason things go dark?
Lou and Kimi explore how every artist has their own unique story, and why no one origin story needs to be better than another. It’s about finding the story within your story. And sometimes, asking the right questions to get to someone else’s.
So tell us — what’s your origin story?
Stay tuned for more Chaos & Creativity on Instagram. And remember—always act a little cooler than you feel!
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Songs from the Shed
Full Origin Story of Chaos and Creativity
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This week Lou catches up with Tracy Marcellino-Aubert in LA, chef, artist, and creative force of nature. We first met Tracy at the Creative Supper Club in New York and from the start she’s been one of those people who just gets it.
In this episode, Tracy takes us back to her early days in San Francisco, where the creative scene wasn’t about “making it” but just about being in it. At 22 she dove headfirst into "it" and hasn’t stopped.
Lou and Tracy talk about food as art that you can eat, where the payoff is instant and deeply felt. Tracy shares what it means to be a creative and a professional, the tension between dreaming big and staying grounded, and why discomfort might be the secret ingredient to growth.
This one is for anyone who has ever asked "Can I really do this?"
Tracey reminds us that every creative act is an act of exposure and that’s what makes it real.
Stay tuned for more Chaos & Creativity on Instagram. And remember—always act a little cooler than you feel!
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Creative Supper Club
We Are Ona
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In this episode of Chaos and Creativity, Kim and Lou explore the generational divide in the creative world and how it affects everything from career choices to collaboration. Whether you're a Gen Z content creator or a Gen X designer, you've likely experienced the tension between old-school expectations and today’s creative hustle.
The Generational Stigma Around Creative Careers
Older generations often value stability, leading to the belief that a 9-to-5 job is the only legitimate career path. But younger creatives are pushing back, or at least trying to. The reality is, many creatives today hold down a traditional 9 to 5 just to support their creative work on the side. Lou and Kimi dig into what this path means, and how it's reshaping expectations around success and sustainability in creative fields.
Creative Workflows: Then vs. Now
Technology has changed how we create. Each generation approaches creativity differently. We talk about the tools, platforms, and processes that have shaped how we work. Younger generations are building on what's come before, remixing it with their own style and perspective.
Where’s the Crossover?
Despite having shared goals, there’s often little overlap between generations in the creative space. We ask: why don’t more multigenerational creative spaces exist?
Social Media and the Rise of Short-Form Content
Social media isn’t just a marketing tool, it’s become a creative medium in its own right. We look at how younger generations are using platforms like TikTok and Instagram Reels not just to promote, but to create. What does that mean for storytelling, attention spans, and legacy forms of media?
The Rise of Hyper Niche Creators
Today’s creative economy thrives on specificity. We dive into how hyper niche creators, those who go deep into one topic, aesthetic, or format , are gaining traction and redefining what it means to be a “successful” creative.
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Soma FM Radio
KROQ Radio
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In this episode, we dive into the creative world of Marco D’Ambrosio, musical composer and owner of MarcoCo Music & Sound Art. Marco has spent his career shaping music and sound to enhance visual storytelling, drawing inspiration from films like Blade Runner, which he credits with changing his life.
Marco breaks down his creative process—from the spark of an idea to a full composition—explaining how he builds a palette of sounds to evoke emotional depth. He believes sound has color, and that storytelling through music is both an art form and a collaboration. We also explore the role of mood in music, the balance between planning and creativity, and how music can act as a time machine, capturing emotions and memories.
Whether you're a music enthusiast, filmmaker, or creative mind, this episode offers a fascinating look into the power of sound in storytelling.
Check out Marco’s latest work, as he’s currently working on a new album. Stay tuned for more Chaos & Creativity on Instagram and BlueSky. And remember—always act a little cooler than you feel!
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Join us in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, for a deep dive into the creative mind of Jaron Presant, veteran DP and one of the cinematographers behind the latest season of Poker Face. Jaron’s visual storytelling pushes boundaries, and in this episode, he unpacks the art of bringing light to story.
From collaborating with Natasha Lyonne to crafting scenes that stick with you, Jaron reveals how cinematography is more than just visuals—it’s about setting a tone, influencing perception, and creating meaning. Jaron and Lou get into the cultural weight of color (why red means something entirely different in the U.S. vs. Asia), the role of lighting in filmmaking, and the early steps in Jaron's creative process—starting with an image discussion deck that guides the entire project.
We also explore Ikigai, the Japanese philosophy that connects passion, skill, and purpose. And when it comes to career advice, Jaron keeps it simple: "Just do you."
Check out Jaron’s work, and stay tuned for more of Chaos & Creativity on Instagram and BlueSky. And remember—always act a little cooler than you feel!
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Join Lou for an inspiring chat with Louis Posen, record producer and founder of Hopeless Records. Louis exposes his brilliant music brain with a personal dive into his world. Rare stories and perspectives explore the music community below the mainstream. He also talks about the balance between art, commerce, and how independent labels make a huge impact on the cultural zeitgeist. With more than 50% female artists, Hopeless Records diversity is greater than any other label in the alternative scene—a product of core principles that have existed since its founding. Hopeless Music Academy fosters a new wave of artists from Mexico. They’re proud to have artists like Blnko, Margaritas Podridas, and more. View their current roster below.
Shoutout to Illuminati Hotties for the awesome music featured in this episode. Be sure to check them out on Instagram for more.
Hopeless Records Story
Hopeless Records Current Roster
Hopeless Records Instagram
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Lani Tice is a Zen master in one of the most chaotic subgenres of the marketing world. She leads the brand ambassador program at Every Man Jack, serving as the vital bridge between the brand and the extreme sports personalities they work with. As a former competitive skier, Lani brings a unique understanding of both the talent’s perspective and the brand’s goals. Through her patience, insight, and vision, she thrives in the tumultuous space where chaos meets creativity.
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The fires in LA left us shocked and dismayed. We're checking in to let you know we're all good and forging ahead. We love you LA.
Learn more & donate to the support of Los Angeles here:
Direct Relief : https://www.directrelief.org
California Fire Foundation : https://www.cafirefoundation.org/
LA Fire Department Foundation : https://supportlafd.org
Give Directly : https://www.givedirectly.org
American Red Cross : https://www.redcross.org/
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Coco Wolf quite literally rose from the couch as an uninspired teenager to become an executive producer at Making Pictures, London, in just over a decade. With her creative mind, calm demeanor, and detail-obsessed personality, Coco shares her journey to becoming an EP and offers inspiring insights on what it takes to be a successful producer in a chaotic industry.
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Photographer, Director, and Founder Caydie McCumber is here for a candid conversation about how her art is deeply influenced by the things that frighten her. In this episode, Caydie opens up about confronting fear through creativity and how embracing vulnerability shapes her work. She also shares the story behind Creative Supper Club—a unique space where diners can leave their egos at the door and connect over meaningful meals, surrounded by kindred creative spirits. In a world where affectation often runs rampant, Caydie has created a sanctuary for authentic, inspiring conversations.
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Musician Kimi Recor and writer/director Lou Lesko bring you conversations with the outliers and outlaws of the creative industries.
Twice a month Kimi and Lou discuss…
Chaos and Creativity is produced by Cheramie Johnson and edited by Alexandra Covey, with music by Kieran Kerwin.