Chaos and Creativity

Chaos and Creativity

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Chaos and Creativity episodes

  • There's No Shame in Having A Day Job

    In this episode, Kimi and Lou discuss day jobs. 

     Referencing author Sara Benincasa's incredible essay, "Real Artist have Day Jobs", Kimi talks about her experience of always having the safety net of a day job to support her, and how it keeps her from feeling any pressure on her art. 

     There's even ways to make your day job work for you. Listen to this episode to get tips, tricks and find out why there's no shame in working a day job.

    19 min
  • Creative Burnout

    In today's episode, Kimi and Lou discuss the dreaded CREATIVE BURNOUT and how to combat it. 

     If you have any questions or stories for us, you can email us at  [email protected] 

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    17 min
  • How to Be Sick

    You got the big job, you're gearing up for the day, and all of the sudden you feel a tickle in your throat. Next thing you know you have the full blown flu/cold/food poisoning. You can't control things like this but you can prepare for them. In this episode Kimi and Lou share some of their experiences in dealing with sickness during important jobs + their tips for getting through it.

    SHOW NOTES: Here are some tips from Kimi + Lou on how to keep your cool when you're not feeling so hot.

    From Lou:

    • Don't eat spicy, raw, or other stomach challenging foods the night before traveling, or doing a gig.
    • Don't get drunk the night before. Sleep is the best way to keep your mind sharp and maintain a cool disposition to manage the inevitable chaos that comes with every job.
    • Speaking of sleep. If you do get sick on the job, get as much as you can. It's how the body fixes itself.
    • Wash your hands often, there's no better transmitter of sickness than shaking hand then touching your nose or rubbing your eyes.Everyone should always carry the following in their travel/gig bag: 
    • Advil
    • Motrin (anti inflammatory - good for hangovers)
    • Pepcid AC (antacid)
    • Imodium (diarrhea)
    • Antihistamine (Claritin-D good for itchiness or other histamine reactions like stings.)
    • Decongestant (one with pseudoephedrine like Sudafed that will dry you out so you can work.)
    • Tampons (even if you're male, you will be asked one day, trust me on this)
    • Mints (if you do vomit on location and you can't brush your teeth, swish, spit, and mint.)

    From Kimi:

    • If you feel a cold/flu coming on, start eating raw garlic like it's no one's business. Crush a clove and let it sit for 15 seconds + then swallow it whole, or cover in honey if you can handle the taste.
    • Make sure you drink a lot of water 
    • If you have food poisoning, activated charcoal is going to be your best friend. You can by tablets at any CVS/Walgreens sort of store.
    • Sleep, sleep, sleep. Many a times, you can get through a gig on pure adrenaline. Just make sure you sleep as much as you can before and after.
    • Gargle with salt water if you feel a tickle in your throat.
    • Know when to call it. Sometimes you're going to be too sick to power through and that's alright too.
    19 min
  • When To Break Free

    In this weeks episode, Lou and Kimi discuss when it's time to break free from your influences and follow your own artistic voice.

    18 min
  • The Booze Episode

    In this episode Lou + Kimi tackle the topic of booze and business. How many glasses of wine make you a creative genius? How does one tackle social situations that mix networking + boozing? Find the answers to this (and life perhaps) on this weeks episode of Chaos and Creativity.

    28 min
  • The "Girly" Episode

    The generation gap breaks wide open in this episode of Chaos and Creativity. Things get slightly heated between Lou and Kimi as they discuss shades of feminism particularly around the use of the word “girly.” As easy as it is for them to raise to aggressive bouts and arguments, they demonstrate how important it is to bridge the age gap through conversation, comprehension and respect. This episode is as much about feminism and respect as it is about the importance of having a conversation with someone who doesn’t share your view point. Not every conversation needs to convert someone’s opinion, and not every argument needs to end in tears.

    28 min
  • Lou Interviews Kimi

    In this episode of Chaos and Creativity , Lou interviews Kimi about her band ( DREAMINGS), how she got started in music, and what advice she has to give to aspiring artists. 

    18 min
  • Interview with Lou Lesko

    In this episode of Chaos + Creativity, Kimi interviews Lou about his 20-year career in photography, his venture into the tech entrepreneur world, and his advice for aspiring photographers.

    25 min
  • The Unglamorous World of Creativity

    A podcast for people who make a living being creative. In Episode One, Kimi + Lou tackle the notion that creative careers are glamorous while sitting in a car overlooking Mt. Tamalpais. www.chaosandcreativity.com

    17 min

About Chaos and Creativity

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Musician Kimi Recor and writer/director Lou Lesko bring you conversations with the outliers and outlaws of the creative industries.


Twice a month Kimi and Lou discuss…