<a href="https://www.city-journal.org/person/rob-montz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rob Montz</a> joins <a href= "https://www.city-journal.org/person/john-tierney" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John Tierney</a> to discuss his documentary It Wasn't Fauci: How the Deep State Really Played Trump.

Rob Montz joins John Tierney to discuss his documentary It Wasn't Fauci: How the Deep State Really Played Trump.

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