Paul Jackman and John “Graz” Graziano are two of the most recognizable (and ridiculous) personalities in the maker world right now. You may know them from the Netflix show Making Fun, from their YouTube channels full of chaos, creativity, and power tools, and from the unmistakable blend of sarcasm and sincerity that follows them wherever they go. Between Jackman’s precision woodworking and Graz’s unfiltered comic energy, they’ve carved out a corner of the community that’s equal parts absurd, inspiring, and deeply human.

We sit down with the guys to talk about what really went on behind the scenes of Making Fun: the late nights, the camaraderie, and the fact that it somehow felt more like summer camp than television. They dig into the early days of the show, the chaotic chemistry that made it work, and the joy (and chaos) of creating something funny, heartfelt, and handmade in front of cameras. They talk about skate ramps, dumpster diving, wooden boots, and how AI is changing the creative process. It’s part reflection, part roast, and part maker therapy session, full of laughter, nostalgia, and a genuine love for the community that made it all possible.

And just as a heads up: there are some swears in this episode!

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