(After one glorious episode using our new mics, this week they didn't work - Skype crackle is back!) 

Happily, Charades means gorgeous Nanna Heeler is also back - cue nationwide tears as we all miss our grans! Kate gets reminiscent about visits to her grandparents as a littlie... then staying at Mary's grandparents as a not-so-littlie!  

But are there also nationwide culture wars between parents and grandparents, and who's wrecking the kids more? Mary has outrage to share. 

Finally, an epic rabbit hole as we ask the question everyone wants to know: who is the mystery Heeler??  

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Gotta Be Done is ex-journos and Melbourne mums Kate McMahon and Mary Bolling, as we deep-dive on every Bluey episode, with plenty of detours into mama life, childhood memories, and everything else we're bingeing, too!

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