A conversation with author and philosopher Charles Eisenstein about negative interest, universal basic income, nature’s rights and a reimagined school system. And of course about the Corona virus. This show is brought to you by the film platform Campfire Stories.

The music in this episode is As if we remember by Ben Bushill.

There's a film at Campfire Stories about Ben Bushill titled One Poem to Catch it All. And there's one about Charles Eisenstein titled An Unlearning. Enjoy!

Love from your host Mattias Olsson.

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