"How 'Stop the Steal' Captured the American Right" is this week's New York Times Magazine cover story. Author Charles Homans says the movement predates Donald Trump and will outlast him as well. Homans tells Brian Stelter about his interviews with GOP voters; why the conversations "quickly shift from 'stolen election' to abortion or Covid lockdowns;" and what might happen to "democratic trust in the system one step down the road."

To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices