Chasing Trail

In this wild and wide-ranging episode of Chasin’ Trail,Teddy Tonelli sits down with trail running icon and thru-hiking Legend (his nickname) Jeff Garmire. We talk tigers (yes, literal and metaphorical), the Cult of Hardrock 100, and how High Lonesome might give it a run forthe money.

We cover poop stories, trail hanky panky, and the grittyrealities of going after the self-supported Appalachian Trail SOBO record—an absolutely massive endeavor that Jeff will soon tackle.

Jeff is the creator of the Free Outside YouTube andpodcast series, a fun-loving FKT crusher, author, and all-around Backcountry Goober with over 30,000+ trail miles under his belt.

From hallucinating on the Long Trail (Jumanji, anyone?)to sprinting to the finish on the JMT with potential kidney issues, he’s been through it all—and lived to podcast about it.

You’ll laugh, you’ll cry, and you might never trust a fartagain.

📲 Follow Jeff Garmire/ Free Outside

Web: https://www.freeoutside.com

YouTube: Free Outside

Instagram: @thefreeoutside

Podcast: Free Outside Podcast

Russ Grant is a community first type of guy. Although youwill find him out racing, you’re sure to find him every Wednesday night takingpictures for the Northeast Trail Crew (links below).

He recently just finished his first 100 miler, completingthe Back Cove Backyard Ultra, totaling 104 miles in 24 hours and 20 minutes.

Lightening fast! He will soon be hosting the Hot Dog 40k, time to be determined, but it is probably gonna be a blast. Anything with hotdogs is a blast, really.

We also discuss Teddy’s ambition of starting the Hot Dog100, a 100k made for hot dogs, by hot dogs. A bunch of aid stations, a hot dog required at each. Vegans still being discussed… Leaning towards maybe.

We also discuss different uses of peanut butter. Is it good for chaffing? Find out!

You can find Grant on Instagram at:
@russjgrant

@thenortheasttrailcrew

Meet Natasha Swartley: Trail Medic, Long Run Enthusiast, Navy Veteran and all-around cheerful soul. Raised in the Appalachian foothills of Pennsylvania, Tashs could be described as a country girl. The Hillbilly roots running deep, Tasha naturally found her way back to the mountains after her time serving her country.

Natasha is here on the pod to talk about her recent experience at the Tahoe 200, along with working many a Destination Trail race as the medical lead. She has run multiple 100 milers, but the quest for 200 remains!

She is determined to finish Tahoe 200, so she will be back in 2026 for round two. In the meantime, she will continue spending her time roving the west coast race scene

You can find Natasha on Instagram at @wonderlostunicorn or at @thortrailmedic

Her Etsy can be found at THIS link. That's where you can find the Foot Care To-Go packs. A true must-have in your vest or drop bag.

You can also help out by supporting one of Natasha's favorite causes, The Two Wolves Foundation.

What happens when two Italians get on a podcast? Well, they talk about running up mountains, food and chasin' Latinas. Naturally.

But Joe is coming off an impressive result at the Cirque Series, Killington race on 6/28. He entered his first trail race with little expectation, but finished only 30 minutes behind the great Dan Curts, while also finishing ahead of 3 Pros. Namely, James Lauriello, his brother-in-law.

We also learn that Joe's Mom is a big fan of the show, which was somewhat uncomfortable for poor Joe. Either way, we needed to bring Joe to the masses, because he may just be coming to a screen near you, during a race... like a trail race.

Joe is looking to move out West and continue his running journey, with an emphasis in the mountains. He is eyeing Colorado, but the entirety of the West has officially been put on notice... Joe is coming.

You can find Joe on Instagram at @joepezzo

Easy, right? Go give him a follow and keep up with his skyward trajectory! 🚀

#trailrunning #running #joepezzo #cirqueseries #killington #chasingtrail

Here is the 2nd part to the 2 part episode with Max Mogren. As the Trial of the Century is nearing it's end, we discuss the possibilities of local Jacksonites just being a bunch of jealous a-holes. From a previous record holder using his platform to be a world class hater.

Will Ryan Burke be the bad guy at the and of all this? Most likely, him and Kelly Halpin... both of which had something to lose when Michelino got the record. Nothing like some good old fashioned localism to protect the sacred Mountains.

If the Natives can't have it, the privileged Whites cant have it, damnit NO ONE can have it!

We also talk about how selling public land might be a good thing! Or do we? Find out on this episode of Chasing Trail!

#trailrunning #freemichelino #michelinosunseri #maxmogren #trialofthecentury

Tim Tollefson joins us to discuss hair, donuts, and of course, the lightening round. But things definitely get interesting when Tim refuses to tell Teddy what kind of conditioner he uses. But will he reveal another hair secret?

We also get to meet Nacho, Tim's dog, and he is very cute. There is also some talk about running, specifically his baby, Mammoth Trailfest. Going into year 4, this are going to be big, real big.

And we also have a bit of breaking news on the show, tune in to find out. Does Tim secretly love croissants more than donuts??

You can find Tim on instagram @timtollefson

Trailfest can be found at @mammothtrailfest

If you are looking for more information about Trailfest, visit:

Trailfest

#trailrunning #utmb #timtollefson #donuts

As the trial of the century comes to a close in United States vs. Sunseri, Max and Tedy discuss the recent media blitz and how some Jackson locals may be jealous of Michelino's accomplishment.

The National Park Service came out and said, from Frank Lands himself, that NPS no longer supports prosecuting the case. But the esteemed Ariel Calmes didn't listen, ignored a Executive Order, and proceeded. Will it come back to haunt her?

We also talk about the broader implications of over-criminalization in America, but specifically on Public Lands. The Federal Government spends 6.9 trilllion each year.

Can you guess how much goes to the Public Lands and Conservation? Watch the episode to find out.

This is part 1 of a 2 part episode with Max Mogren, with the second episode set to release in a few days. Join the discussion and let us know what you think if this case.

Is the Federal Government wrong? Should Michelino be locked up for ever? We wanna know.

Max Mogren (@maxmogren) • Instagram photos and videos#trailrunning #freemichelino #tetons #jacksonhole #mogfarts#chasintrail #unhinged

In this special episode of Teddy Talks, we dive deep into the federal prosecution of professional trail runner Michelino Sunseri, who set a speed record on the Grand Teton — only to be charged for using a historic trail long embraced by climbers and runners alike.
This isn’t just a story about a shortcut — it’s a story about access, bureaucracy, and how public lands are increasingly becoming fenced off by red tape and selective enforcement. We explore the historical parallels to past mountaineering feuds, the silence of the outdoor community, and why this case should alarm anyone who values movement in wild spaces. The public is the solution!

📰 Full list of sources and articles referenced in this episode:
https://wyofile.com/grand-teton-trial-reveals-new-details-around-ultra-runners-shortcut-and-feds-decision-to-charge-him/
https://www.sfgate.com/national-parks/article/high-elevation-drama-grand-teton-national-park-20335706.php
https://gearjunkie.com/endurance/michelino-sunseri-switchback-settlement
https://wyofile.com/records-fall-tetons/
https://www.mindstrengthproject.com/about
https://www.give-r.com/pages/ryan-burke
https://apnews.com/article/934a5526570569b625f5d854ec339a04
https://www.congress.gov/114/plaws/publ245/PLAW-114publ245.pdf
https://www.fodors.com/news/news/new-interior-order-limits-local-control-over-national-parks-amid-staffing-crisis
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/1874/text
https://naturalresources.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=414710
https://recreationroundtable.org/news/orr-wants-to-cut-the-red-tape-to-getting-outside/
https://news.ultrasignup.com/the-explore-act-is-a-win-for-runners-and-public-lands/

This episode of Chasin’ Trail is unhinged in all the right ways. Teddy Tonelli welcomes Scott Klingonsmith—aka Scrappy Chollo—to talk about racing up mountains, surviving with a heart condition, and why capybaras might be the key to world peace.

We cover:

• His upcoming showdown at the Sunapee Scramble on June 1st, 2025

• Growing up fast (and running even faster) with a heart condition

• How chollos, breastfeeding metaphors, and capybara diplomacy somehow all connect

• What it’s like being the weirdest and toughest dude on Strava

This isn’t just another trail talk—it’s trail running meets chaos theory, spiritual rodents, and altitude-fueled nonsense.

If you like your mountain podcasts fast, funny, and slightly feral, you’re in the right place.

Subscribe, share, and send a capybara to Congress.

You can find Scot on Instagram @scrappy_chollo

#ScottKlingonsmith #ChasinTrail #ScrappyChollo #CapybaraPeaceTreaty #SunapeeScramble #TrailRunningPodcast #MountainRunning #Skyrunning #RunningWithHeart #UltrarunningChaos #BreastfeedingAnalogies #RodentDiplomacy

Some would say that Max Mogren has some controversialopinions, that he is a “conspiracy theorist”. Well, Teddy wanted to have Max (not that Max, he’s still dodging us) on the show to discuss the upcoming court case of United States vs. Sunseri. He recently discussed the controversy in an Instagram post where he blasts the Feds for frivolous use of our tax dollars.

You’ll come to find that Max is out there fighting for thecommon man and is trying to preserve true access to the outdoors. Rather than build more roads into the parks, let’s prioritize funding for keeping the landshealthy, the opening of corridors for animals, and the reforming of the fee system to benefit the poorest among us.

This episode has its funny moments, and Teddy does his bestto keep up with Max, while giving some heart felt opinions of his own. At the end of the day, we have a lot of work to do if we want to truly preserve our lands and the beautiful plants and animals we know and love. We need to push back against the fraudulent tax scam of carbon credits, dust credits, and promote real solutions and tangible projects that will benefit life across this planet.

We also talk about how the government overreach is likehaving your wiener grabbed by a robot. Not fun. We also discuss the Joe Rogan Experience Max had with a Fleshlight and breaking a coffee table back in the day.

We also discuss Teddy’s phenomenal thighs in this episode,along with his love of cheese. He has Max steelman the argument for Michelino being thrown in Federal Prison forever. We also discuss how Michelino is like Frodo Baggins.

You can find Max on Instagram at Max Mogren or his Dirty Bag Rigs

You can rad Max’s Substack here: Max Mogren's Newsletter and MogfartsPodcast | Substack

#trailrunning #freemichelino #tetons #jacksonhole #mogfarts#chasintrail #unhinged