In this episode, Pat interviews “Gena,” who recently spent some time in prison. With honesty and a little humor, “Gena” shares her journey of incarceration and the challenges of everyday life behind bars. We discover how many bags of ramen it costs to get your hair braided in prison, revealing the unique bartering economy that exists inside. “Gena” also discusses the support systems that helped her during her sentence. This raw and eye-opening conversation offers listeners a genuine glimpse into prison life and the resilience of the human spirit. The episode's thumbnail artwork was drawn by one of “Gena’s” fellow inmates, with “Gena” herself pictured on the far right.