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On Tuesday, tech firm Oracle$ORCL ( ▼ 6.02% ) announced one of the most transformative contracts in modern business history. OpenAI will pay Oracle $300 billion over five years to host AI applications on Oracle’s servers. The news sent Oracle shares up as much as 43%, and secured OpenAI’s ability to offer its large language models to clients. It’s also put Oracle founder and CEO Larry Ellison, now 81, just ahead of Elon Musk as the world’s richest man, according to Bloomberg. BBTW editor Peter Green sat down with AI consultant Lee Gaul, founder of Long Horizon AI Consulting, to understand the transaction.
BBTW: What just happened?Lee Gaul: Oracle! Like Obi-Wan Kenobi, this is a name I haven’t heard in years. But it makes a lot of sense: Companies are scrambling for what they call “more compute”, which means more servers on which to do their calculations. There are two competing ideas around the amount of compute that AI needs. Most commonly, when people hear about computers, they think of training these models. But it’s serving that AI that really is the name of the game.And it’s a real bottleneck for a lot of companies. There’s a limited number of real players out there, and the big three, Azure [Microsoft] $MSFT, Google Cloud $GOOG, and Amazon $AMZN Web Services, only have so much capacity.
So who is selling what to whom?OpenAI is buying, or essentially renting space in the Oracle cloud to run their AI models. So, when you make a call to ChatGPT, that is happening in the cloud on Azure.And now it’ll also happen with Oracle.OpenAI also uses Google, because they have to have that serving of that whole exchange with their chatbots on a massive cloud infrastructure. And that’s why it’s such a smart move for Oracle to get those big investments.
How does this affect OpenAI’s relationship with Microsoft?OpenAI uses the Azure cloud to train, to provide inference, or serve the product to their end users. They’ve been going to Google and now they’re going to Oracle, as well.
Will Oracle have to buy lots of Nvidia chips to build data centers, or is this going to use existing capacity?They’ve already got this capacity in place and with plans to continue to scale out the cloud infrastructure that they have. They’ve been shopping their capacity around and saying, look, we can support this amount and this capacity of cloud infrastructure and advanced AI processing capabilities today.They’re by no means building this up from scratch.
How long will this last?That’s the problem.The chips are only state-of-the-art for a year or so.So the data centers all have to be continually buying the most recent state-of-the-art chips.
Is this a new direction for Oracle? Is it saving them from extinction?I don’t think it’s in any way saving them from anything.Oracle is still ubiquitous and databases basically all run on Oracle, so that means that they’ve been quietly part of everyone’s tech stack in the enterprise for forever.Oracle had been overlooked as anything but a necessary evil. Now, they are able to say, hey, look, we have tons of advanced computing that we are ready to provide to all the cutting-edge AI systems out there. It’s all over Twitter and it’s all over the news, it’s been good for their brand.
This interview has been edited and condensed for brevity and clarity.
—Peter S. Green
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$ORCL ( ▼ 6.02% ) $MSFT ( ▲ 0.2% ) $GOOG ( ▲ 0.56% ) $AMZN ( ▼ 0.11% ) $SBUX ( ▼ 0.53% ) $META ( ▼ 0.09% ) $AAPL ( ▲ 1.58% ) $XOM ( ▼ 0.11% ) $CBRL ( ▲ 4.76% ) $AAUKF ( ▲ 0.93% ) $TECK ( ▲ 3.02% ) $CBRL ( ▲ 4.76% ) $NKE ( ▲ 0.05% ) $UAA ( ▲ 0.8% ) $ANPDF ( ▲ 2.77% ) $HYMTF ( ▼ 7.44% ) $BMWYY ( 0.0% ) $MBGAF ( ▲ 0.57% ) $TSLA ( ▲ 5.88% ) The usual suspectsThe Federal Trade Commission has launched an inquiry into several social media and artificial intelligence companies about the potential harms to children and teenagers who use their AI chatbots as companions.
The FTC said Thursday it has sent letters to Google parent Alphabet, Facebook and Instagram parent Meta Platforms, Snap, Character Technologies, ChatGPT maker OpenAI and xAI.
The FTC said it wants to understand what steps, if any, companies have taken to evaluate the safety of their chatbots when acting as companions, to limit the products’ use by and potential negative effects on children and teens, and to apprise users and parents of the risks associated with the chatbots.
EDITOR’S NOTE — This story includes discussion of suicide. If you or someone you know needs help, the national suicide and crisis lifeline in the U.S. is available by calling or texting 988.
The move comes as a growing number of kids use AI chatbots for everything — from homework help to personal advice, emotional support and everyday decision-making. That’s despite research on the harms of chatbots, which have been shown to give kids dangerous advice about topics such as drugs, alcohol and eating disorders. The mother of a teenage boy in Florida who killed himself after developing what she described as an emotionally and sexually abusive relationship with a chatbot has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Character.AI. And the parents of 16-year-old Adam Raine recently sued OpenAI and its CEO Sam Altman, alleging that ChatGPT coached the California boy in planning and taking his own life earlier this year.
Character.AI said it is looking forward to “collaborating with the FTC on this inquiry and providing insight on the consumer AI industry and the space’s rapidly evolving technology.”
“We have invested a tremendous amount of resources in Trust and Safety, especially for a startup. In the past year we’ve rolled out many substantive safety features, including an entirely new under-18 experience and a Parental Insights feature,” the company said. “We have prominent disclaimers in every chat to remind users that a Character is not a real person and that everything a Character says should be treated as fiction.”
Meta declined to comment on the inquiry and Alphabet, Snap, OpenAI and X.AI did not immediately respond to messages for comment.
OpenAI and Meta earlier this month announced changes to how their chatbots respond to teenagers asking questions about suicide or showing signs of mental and emotional distress. OpenAI said it is rolling out new controls enabling parents to link their accounts to their teen’s account.
Parents can choose which features to disable and “receive notifications when the system detects their teen is in a moment of acute distress,” according to a company blog post that says the changes will go into effect this fall.
Regardless of a user’s age, the company says its chatbots will attempt to redirect the most distressing conversations to more capable AI models that can provide a better response.
Meta also said it is now blocking its chatbots from talking with teens about self-harm, suicide, disordered eating and inappropriate romantic conversations, and instead directs them to expert resources. Meta already offers parental controls on teen accounts.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration has asked an appeals court to remove Lisa Cook from the Federal Reserve’s board of governors by Monday, before the central bank’s next vote on interest rates.
The request represents an extraordinary effort by the White House to shape the board before the Fed’s interest rate-setting committee meets next Tuesday and Wednesday. At the same time, Senate Republicans are pushing to confirm Stephen Miran, President Donald Trump’s nominee to an open spot on the Fed’s board, which could happen as soon as Monday.
Trump sought to fire Cook Aug. 25, but a federal judge ruled late Tuesday that the removal was illegal and reinstated her to the Fed’s board. Trump has accused Cook of mortgage fraud because she appeared to claim two properties as “primary residences” in July 2021, before she joined the board. Such claims can lead to a lower mortgage rate and smaller down payment than if one of them was declared as a rental property or second home. Cook has denied the charges.
On Tuesday, U.S. District Court Judge Jia Cobb ruled that the administration had not satisfied a legal requirement that Fed governors can only be fired “for cause,” which she said was limited to misconduct while in office. Cook did not join the Fed’s board until 2022.
In their emergency appeal, Trump’s lawyers argued that even if the conduct occurred before her time as governor, her alleged action “indisputably calls into question Cook’s trustworthiness and whether she can be a responsible steward of the interest rates and economy.”
The administration asked an appeals court to issue an emergency decision reversing the lower court by Monday. If their appeal is succesful, Cook would be removed from the Fed’s board until her case is ultimately resolved in the courts, and she would miss next week’s meeting.
If the appeals court rules in Cook’s favor, the administration could seek an emergency ruling from the Supreme Court.
Either way, the Fed is expected to cut its benchmark interest rate next week by a quarter-point to about 4.1%. When the Fed reduces its key rate, it often, over time, lowers borrowing costs for mortgages, auto loans, and business loans. Some of those rates have already fallen in anticipation of cuts from the Fed.
Should Miran, a top economic adviser to Trump, win approval in time to join the Fed next week, he could push for a steeper half-point reduction to the Fed’s rate.
Yet there are 12 officials who vote on whether and by how much to cut, including the seven members of the Fed’s board as well as five of the Fed’s 12 regional bank presidents, who vote on a rotating basis.
Trump’s two other appointees to the Fed — Christopher Waller and Michelle Bowman — might also support a half-point cut, but several of the Fed’s bank presidents have expressed concern about stubbornly elevated inflation and would almost certainly oppose such a large reduction.
If the Fed approves a quarter-point cut, it is possible there could be dissenting votes both from officials who preferred no cut and from those who support a half-point.
Ever since Disney paid $4 billion for the Marvel franchise in 2009, their movies have been making less and less money. What’s going on? It turns out the problem has been baked into Marvel’s writing culture from the start. The old fashioned “Marvel method” of writing comic books has the writer provide a summary of the story to the artist, who then draws the entire issue. When the art is complete, the writer goes in and adds the dialogue.
Lately, Marvel Studios production has worked more and more in the same way. Production will start even if the script isn’t finalized, and the filmmakers, like the artists of Marvel comics, are expected to fill in the details while they’re shooting. As you can imagine, that’s financially risky. Every second on set for a blockbuster production costs millions of dollars, so waiting around as the directors or actors or on-set writers try to figure out what should happen next causes budgets to balloon.
As the budgets rise, the margins for profitability become slimmer and slimmer. “Captain American: Brave New World” cost $300 million including marketing to make, and made $415 million worldwide. “Thunderbolts” cost $280 million including marketing to make, and made $380 million worldwide. The two movies are being described as “flops” by industry commentators, and the trend seems to only be getting worse as cast members of “Avengers: Doomsday” report that they don’t know who they’re in scenes with because they were shot individually on green screens so that the directors can piece scenes together later. No wonder the upcoming crossover movie was delayed from May to December.
Director James Gunn watched this happen first hand when he worked on the “Guardians of the Galaxy” trilogy for Marvel, so it’s no wonder when he launched DC Studios with Peter Safan he instated the rule that no project will start production until there is a finished script everyone is happy with. “Superman,” for example, made $614 million worldwide for DC Studios against reported production and marketing budgets between $200 and $300 million. The simple lesson seems to be that you want to prioritize good writing before you begin production on a big-budget movie. But will Marvel’s owner, Disney, ever learn?
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