Implementing changes – especially irreversible and potentially catastrophic changes – requires humility and understanding. In this conversation, we discuss Chesterton's fence and the art of mindful change-making.

Show notes:

• The Thing by GK Chesterton
• Chesterton’s fence
• Seeing Like a State by James C. Scott
• Systemantics by John Gall
• Gall’s law
• Christopher Alexander
• Drift Into Failure by Sidney Dekker