Join Matt Watson and Chris Heivly, Managing Director of Chris Heivly, for a discussion about founders versus ecosystems and which comes first. Listen to them dig into why startup ecosystems are so important in and for communities. Matt and Chris also talk about Chris’s latest book, Build the Fort, the role of corporations in building startup ecosystems, and what founders need the most.

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