For the past several years, Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness, and Jon Lawlor have been getting together almost weekly to hold each other’s feet to the fire in the pursuit of creating art that is filled with life, while also learning how to live more artfully. Now, Chillpak Hollywood Presents “The Art Life” as a regular podcast! This week, the gentlemen discuss how art institutions might take advantage of the way people use mobile devices by creating apps that help to foster community through art. A healthy response to AI, the exclamation mark in Wham! and Yorgos Lanthimos’ Bugonia all get discussed as well!

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On this week’s show, Dean Haglund is finally using a microphone once again. It makes his audio better, to be certain, but somehow it also manages to create several cameo opportunities for his dogs! Don’t let those moments dissuade you, however, as this week’s show is an utterly fascinating conversation between Dean and his longtime co-host Phil Leirness. They go deep, discussing the potential sale of Warner Bros. to Netflix, the life and legacy of perhaps the greatest American architect of all time, Frank Gehry, and the truly spine-chilling lessons we can learn from the Nazis’ film policy.

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Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness and Jon Lawlor have been collaborating on podcasts for a long time! For the past several years they have been getting together almost weekly to hold each other’s feet to the fire in the pursuit of creating art that is filled with life, while continuing to learn how to live more artfully. Now, Chillpak Hollywood Presents “The Art Life” to you on a regular basis! This week, the gentlemen discuss what Ray Bradbury had to say about the importance of feeling rather than thinking while creating. Dean, Phil, and Jon discuss in personal detail why the good feeling creating art can provide is the very feeling they might be seeking to avoid. They discuss the concept of how the very culture of staring at our screens might become helpful when it comes to seeking out life experiences and genuine experiences with art. Finally, the relationship between one great painter and a legendary Beat poet leads to a free-wheeling, frustrating, funny and fascinating discussion about fine art, poetry, performance art and So I Married an Axe Murderer!

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One of the most popular ongoing segments in Dean Haglund and Phil Leirness’ long-running, weekly “Chillpak Hollywood Hour” has always been when they celebrate the lives and legacies of those who made indelible marks in the arts or in media. Some listeners have even let us know they would gladly listen to whole shows about celebrity deaths. Now, those listeners will have their chance!

Those celebrated on this pilot episode entirely dedicated to the departed:

*Reggae pioneer Jimmy Cliff

*Bandleader and saxophonist Cleto Escobedo III

*Musician and producer who helped define the “Minneapolis sound” Garry “Jellybean” Johnson

*Influential alt-country artist Todd Snider

*Radio hall of fame inductee and groundbreaking NPR fixture Susan Stamberg

*The artist behind film posters for countless blockbuster movies, Drew Struzan

*Director of Once Were Warriors and Die Another Day Lee Tamahori

*Three-time Oscar-nominated character actress Diane Ladd

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Dean and Phil compare notes on their Thanksgivings and reveal how (and probably why) Phil got sick on his birthday! Then, they discuss a wide array of brand new and classic movies from various genres and from locales around the world, including Richard Linklater’s Nouvelle Vague, Joachim Trier’s Sentimental Value, the noir classic The Postman Always Rings Twice, the groundbreaking indie Chan is Missing, the all-time masterwork Au hasard Balthazar, and a Netflix doc about Eddie Murphy. In “Celebrity Deaths”, an unforgettable and prolific character actor and one of the greatest playwrights of all time get remembered.

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Join host Phil Leirness as he goes deep into contemporary television with Marc Hershon and you might just come away with one or two episodic series you will want to check out, and maybe even one or two you will wish to avoid!

The series covered on this installment: “Dept. Q”, “Stumble”, “A Man on the Inside” (Season 2), “Pluribus”, “The Beast in Me”, and “The Mighty Nein”.

Marc Hershon is a branding expert who has dreamt up names for countless hit products. He is a comedy veteran, a comedy impresario, and he teaches improv comedy. He has penned several television movies, and is the co-author of I Hate People, a guide to getting “what you want out of your job.” He has reviewed comedy podcasts for The Huffington Post and Splitsider and was the longtime producer and host of “Succotash” the comedy podcast podcast. Marc has spent much of his adult life trying to get people to stop using the word “podcast” and to use “soundcast” instead.

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Almost every week, Dean Haglund, Phil Leirness and Jon Lawlor get together via zoom to explore questions pertaining to the creation of art that brims with life and using creativity to live more artfully. If you like diving deep into the creation of fine art, music, movies and more, then pull up a chair and join the party! This week, the importance of limitations, the human behavior on display in great character acting, why genre and formula matter, why the 1970s were the best decade for American film, and the use of apps at art museums all get discussed.

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This week, Dean and Phil will begin to slowly roll out the new era of Chillpak Hollywood, releasing much more content each week. Phil provides details at the outset of this brand new episode of the show that has been changing the way people listen to the internet since May of 2007! Then, he and Dean engage in much show biz “water cooler” discussion. The most famous modernist home in the world is up for sale for the very first time. Dean and Phil talk about the house, its history, and some of the movies that were filmed there. Warner Bros. is also up for sale, apparently (again!), and Dean and Phil both discuss it and sort of lament it! A loyal listener is very upset about the film Bugonia, so Dean and Phil revisit their debate about the film’s director, Yorgos Lanthimos. The lack of box office this year for accomplished and acclaimed films aimed at adults gets discussed broadly, with two of these films (the Channing Tatum vehicle Roofman, and the recent spy thriller Black Bag) going under the microscope. Finally, two classic films get re-appraised and celebrated anew: Rian Johnson’s Brick on its 20th anniversary, and the rollicking 1966 western The Professionals. Finally, one of Phil’s all-time favorite actors, indeed one of the greatest figures in Japanese cinema history, gets remembered in “Celebrity Deaths”.

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