Red Flags Rising

China, AI, and Export Controls - Facing a Moment of Truth


Listen Later

Mike and Brent follow-up on Episode 19’s discussion of “stack sweeps” with a discussion of the current “moment of truth” facing trade compliance teams dealing with high-probability, catch-all enforcement risks as explained in their recent WorldECR (Issue No. 141, July/August 2025) and Dow Jones Risk Journal article, “Anticipating the moment of truth: how to prepare for ‘high probability’ catch-all enforcement.” Specifically, they discuss the recent decision by the U.S. to allow (licensed) sales of certain advanced integrated circuits to China (00:42), their WorldECR/DJRJ article and how the Bureau of Industry & Security (BIS) guidance of May 13, 2025, which emphasized the “high probability” standard and catch-all provisions of the U.S. Export Administration Regulations (EAR), inspired the article (or at least inspired Tom Blass of WorldECR to ask us for an article) (07:10), how the underlying catch-all provisions are not “new” as of May 13, 2025 (10:26), how compliance teams can’t “zero-risk” export controls risk and need to adopt risk-based approaches (12:17), the relevance of the “inchoate” offenses under the EAR, i.e., aiding, abetting, conspiracy, evasion, acting with knowledge, and misrepresentations (13:21), the limitations of end-use and end-user certificates under the May 13, 2025 policy and guidance documents (14:47), their thoughts on the reportedly pending “50% rule” for the Entity List (18:32), the impact of the ability of malign actors, political parties, and military-intelligence actors to exercise influence even without shareholdings (19:25), why the most risky counterparties are those not on the Entity List (20:49), and the three key takeaways in their WorldECR/DJRJ article (24:09). They conclude with another installment of Brent Carlson’s “Managing Up” segment (30:28).

WorldECR: https://www.worldecr.com/

More about Brent: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brent-carlson-41ba692/

More about Mike: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mhuneke/

Mike & Brent’s “Fresh Looks” series: https://www.hugheshubbard.com/fresh-looks

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Red Flags RisingBy Michael Huneke & Brent Carlson

  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5

5

9 ratings


More shows like Red Flags Rising

View all
The Bill Simmons Podcast by The Ringer

The Bill Simmons Podcast

30,293 Listeners

Pivot by New York Magazine

Pivot

9,765 Listeners

Russian Roulette by Center for Strategic and International Studies

Russian Roulette

140 Listeners

The Daily by The New York Times

The Daily

113,078 Listeners

Tides of History by Audible /  Patrick Wyman

Tides of History

6,309 Listeners

History That Doesn't Suck by Prof. Greg Jackson

History That Doesn't Suck

6,144 Listeners

The Trade Guys by CSIS  |  Center for Strategic and International Studies

The Trade Guys

151 Listeners

Pekingology by Center for Strategic and International Studies

Pekingology

144 Listeners

Sanctions Space by ACAMS

Sanctions Space

13 Listeners

Good Inside with Dr. Becky by Dr. Becky Kennedy

Good Inside with Dr. Becky

4,532 Listeners

The Foreign Affairs Interview by Foreign Affairs Magazine

The Foreign Affairs Interview

482 Listeners

The AI Policy Podcast by Center for Strategic and International Studies

The AI Policy Podcast

47 Listeners