In this ep Evgenia and I are joined by Carl Zha to talk about the insane reaction — including accusations of treason and betrayal — coming out of U.S. media after American skier Eileen Gu decided to compete for China. We then transition to talking about Carl’s experience as a Chinese immigrant growing up in America.

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If you don’t know Carl, he runs the great “Silk and Steal” podcast about Chinese history and culture. He’s being constantly libeled in western media as some sort sneaky propagandist for the Chinese government because he offers a balanced view of his homeland and not the constant China bashing that’s expected from immigrants like him — a topic that we get into in our interview. Check him out on Patreon and YouTube.

—Yasha Levine

Catch up on some old eps:

* “Navalny,” the documentary

* The Ayahuasca Special

* Christmas Special: Ghost of Epstein

* St. Paul of Amsterdam

* Immigrant Deprogramming with Nika Dubrovsky

* Imaginary Futures with Richard Barbrook

* Behind the Silicon Curtain

* The Soviet Jew & good riddance Los Feliz

* “I didn’t want to live in a simulacrum of American life in the ruins of the Soviet Union”

* Watching American movies in the USSR ft. Boris Levine

* Anti-Soviet identities in the USSR

* The End

* Breeders

* Adam Curtis, get out of my head

* Navalny, the Kremlin, and the curse of neoliberalism

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