Chat with a writer from Australia recorded directly to a smart phone so the sound quality isn’t as crisp as usual but the flavour of someone painting is worth it. No music in the background but the sounds of trains, rolling the wall, spray paint and other real world noises give a different feel to this episode.

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Intro and outro music by Frenic from This One Records: (http://www.thisonerecords.com/)

Podcast logo photograph by Alex Bartsch: http://www.alexbartsch.com/

This podcast is not for the usual Banksy book reading street art fan, it's about letter based graffiti writing. But if you like street art, then you'll probably want to learn more about graffiti culture, because that's where street art began.

Join us for a not to serious conversation about writing on things.