Link to extended Robert Scheer interview: https://www.patreon.com/posts/legendary-robert-70803500

Journalists Chris Hedges and Robert Scheer discuss Mikhail Gorbachev, his life, his role in the end of the Cold War and his legacy today. How does he relate to Vladimir Putin, the state of Russia today and the war in Ukraine. Plus Hedges discusses his latest piece "Ukraine and the Politics of Permanent War."

Chris Hedges (https://chrishedges.substack.com/) is a Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist who was a foreign correspondent for fifteen years for The New York Times, where he served as the Middle East Bureau Chief and Balkan Bureau Chief for the paper. He previously worked overseas for The Dallas Morning News, The Christian Science Monitor, and NPR. He was the host of the Emmy Award-nominated RT America show On Contact and now has a show at The Real News.

Find all of his work at https://chrishedges.substack.com/

Robert Scheer is the publisher of Scheer Post (https://scheerpost.com/).

Robert Scheer has written eight books, including two this decade: "The Great American Stickup: How Reagan Republicans and Clinton Democrats Enriched Wall Street while Mugging Main Street," and his newest book is "They Know Everything about You: How Data-Collecting Corporations and Snooping Government Agencies Are Destroying Democracy." He is a clinical professor of communications at the Annenberg School for Communication & Journalism at the University of Southern California. He has interviewed Jimmy Carter, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and others. Between 1964 and 1969 he was Vietnam correspondent, managing editor and editor in chief of Ramparts magazine.

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