“....where the moles are.” 

Chatter rocks with alums Louis Bayard and Hannah Depp Oliver of Loyalty Books joining David and Torie.   Tapped as a judge for this week’s National Book Awards, Hannah dishes but keeps the winner secret.  Speaking of secrets, award winning author and documentarian Chris Whipple Zooms in to talk about his latest – The Spymasters: How the CIA Directors Shape History and the Future.  He answers all the big questions.  Who succeeds/fails as Director?  How do they serve (or not) their Presidents? What’s the mission, anyhow?  Force for good or evil?  The gang closes with aspirational spy novels for Deserted Island.  And, of course, they talked Kennerly!