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  • Impeachment, Redux

    It’s a rerun, y’all! Enjoy this classic episode and consider how the conversation might be different if we were having it today!

    References

    What is impeachment?

    USA.Gov. “How federal impeachment works.” Last updated February 2, 2024. https://www.usa.gov/impeachment

    Learn about the impeachment of King Charles I:

    Paradis, Michel. “Three Lessons From the First Time a Head of State Was Impeached.” October 3, 2019. Lawfare. https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/three-lessons-first-time-head-state-was-impeached

    How impeachment works between the House and Senate:

    United States Senate. “About Impeachment.” https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/impeachment.htm

    About the impeachment of Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas:

    Mascaro, Lisa. “House votes to impeach Mayorkas in a historic rebuke of a sitting Cabinet member.” February 13, 2024. PBS. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/house-votes-to-impeach-mayorkas-in-a-historic-rebuke-of-a-sitting-cabinet-member

    What’s a writ of mandamus?

    Legal Information Institute. “Mandamus.” Cornell Law School. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/mandamus

    The only other time a cabinet member was impeached:

    United States Senate. “Impeachment Trial of Secretary of War William Belknap, 1876.” https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/impeachment/impeachment-belknap.htm

    The bit on “60 Minutes” with the Clinton’s:

    60 Minutes. “Hilary Clinton’s first 60 minutes interview.” 1992. https://youtu.be/-UqKNgrwK8E?si=FM8Fw4Yz6MQMvft6

    Not familiar with Senator Gary Hart?

    Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica. “Gary Hart.” May 1, 2024. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Gary-Hart

    How did Gerald R. Ford define impeachment?

    Davis, Kenneth C., “The history of American impeachment.” The Smithsonian Magazine, June 12, 2017. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/what-you-need-know-about-impeachment-180963645/

    Want to learn more about immigration issues in the U.S.?

    Kobucista, Claire, Cheatham, Amelia, and Roy, Diana. “The U.S. Immigration Debate.” Last updated June 6, 2023. Council on Foreign Relations. https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/us-immigration-debate-0

    Senator Chuck Schumer’s formal response to the Mayorkas impeachment:

    Senate Democrats. “Majority Leader Schumer Floor Remarks on the Impeachment of Secretary Mayorkas.” April 17, 2024. https://www.democrats.senate.gov/news/press-releases/majority-leader-schumer-floor-remarks-on-the-impeachment-trial-of-secretary-mayorkas

    Read about how the impeachment of Secretary Mayorkas was deemed unconstitutional:

    Pecorin, Allison and Hutzler, Alexandra. “Senate kills Mayorkas impeachment trial, votes both articles ‘unconstitutional’.” April 17, 2024. ABC News. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senators-sworn-jurors-impeachment-trial-dhs-secretary-mayorkas/story?id=109349278

    What’s malfeasance?

    Legal Information Institute. “Malfeasance.” Cornell Law School. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/malfeasance

    The impeachment book that Steve referenced:

    Charles R. Black. Impeachment: A Handbook. (Yale University Press, 2018).

    Learn about President Nixon’s near impeachment:

    Constitution Annotated. “ArtII.S4.4.7 President Richard Nixon and Impeachable Offenses.”  https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S4-4-7/ALDE_00000695/

    The Watergate trials that happened prior to that:

    United States Senate. “Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities.” https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/investigations/watergate.htm

    Which senators voted which way in Trump impeachment trial:

    Booker, Brakkton. “Trump Impeachment Trial Verdict: How Senators Voted.” February 13, 2021. NPR. https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-trial-live-updates/2021/02/13/967539051/trump-impeachment-trial-verdict-how-senators-voted

    When we recorded this podcast, the New York trial was still in process. In case you were unaware of the results:

    Scannell, Kara, Del Valle, Lauren, and Herb, Jeremy. “Donald Trump found guilty of all 34 charges in hush money trial.” May 31, 2024. CNN. https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-hush-money-trial-05-30-24/index.html

    If you need some help keeping track of all the trials that Trump is involved in:

    Lawfare. “The Trump Trials.” https://www.lawfaremedia.org/current-projects/the-trump-trials

    In case you want to read about Trump cheating charities:

    New York State Attorney Journal. “Donald J. Trump Pays Court-Ordered $2 Million For Illegally Using Trump Foundation Funds.” December 10, 2019. https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2019/donald-j-trump-pays-court-ordered-2-million-illegally-using-trump-foundation

    Don’t remember Eugene V. Debs as well as Mack and Steve?

    Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica. “Eugene V. Debs.” May 31, 2024. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Eugene-V-Debs

    In case you don’t remember, Trump bragged he could shoot someone without consequence:

    Dwyer, Colin. “Donald Trump: 'I Could ... Shoot Somebody, And I Wouldn't Lose Any Voters'” January 23, 2016. NPR. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/01/23/464129029/donald-trump-i-could-shoot-somebody-and-i-wouldnt-lose-any-voters

    The podcast (with a PowerPoint presentation!) that Steve referenced:

    Wittes, Benjamin and Anderson, Scott R. “A Criminal in the White House: How It Might Work and What It Might Mean.” November 2, 2024. Lawfare Podcast. https://youtu.be/e_9Tsoxs-UA?si=L7_FWfL6Ki2Qfijq

    Recipe for a gin martini:

    https://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/martini-cocktails-2009

    Recipe for a Manhattan:

    https://www.liquor.com/recipes/manhattan-2/

    Recipe for a Boulevardier without Scotch because you don’t like to drink bad ideas:

    https://www.liquor.com/recipes/boulevardier/

    More about that town in Alabama that refuses to have a mayor that Steve told us about:

    Walker, Adria R. “Alabama town that hasn’t held elections in decades sued to allow voting.” March 29, 2024. The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/29/newbern-alabama-election-lawsuit-mayor

    If you want to be a geek like Steve and get to know cybersecurity guy, Bruce Schneier:

    https://www.schneier.com/

    Yet another book that Steve referenced:

    Jared Diamond. The World Until Yesterday: What Can We Learn from Traditional Societies? (Penguin Books, 2013.)

    The article about Kennedy and Nixon that Mack referenced:

    Bender, Bryan. “The Night Kennedy and Nixon Were Bunkmates.” April 29, 2022. Politico. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/04/29/jfk-nixon-bunkmates-00028388

    Unfamiliar with the Taft-Hartley Act?

    Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica. “Taft-Hartley Act.” June 17, 2015. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/money/Taft-Hartley-Act

    A little history on the friendship of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Antonin Scalia:

    Cox, Chelsey. “Fact Check: It’s true, Ginsburg and Scalia were close friends despite ideological differences.” September 27, 2020. USA Today. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/27/fact-check-ruth-bader-ginsburg-antonin-scalia-were-close-friends/3518592001/

    And, “Stay on target,” is a Star Wars reference. But you already knew that.

    1 hr 9 min
  • Why is it so Hard to Vote?

    Steve defiles a chicken, Anne misrepresents Swedish fish, and Mack imitates a raven. Oh, and we talk about voting. MAKE YOUR PLAN TO VOTE: https://www.vote411.org/

    REFERENCES

    There has been a trend among both parties to encourage people to get out and vote:

    Carnegie Corporation of New York. “Voting Rights: A Short History.” Updated March 2025. Andrew Carnegie Foundation. https://carnegie.org/article/voting-rights-timeline/

    Public schools have a responsibility to make sure that high schoolers that are of age, that we get them registered to vote:

    Texas Secretary of State. “High School Deputy Registrar FAQs.” https://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/laws/high-school-frequently-asked-questions.shtml

    The name of the multistate database to help coordinate voter rolls is the Electronic Registration Information Center (ERIC):

    ERIC. “What is ERIC?” https://ericstates.org/about/

    This is a far cry from where we started:

    University of North Texas. “A Brief History of Voting in America.” https://guides.library.unt.edu/voting/history-of-voting-America

    In the Constitution, this is still true, states on their own decide who gets to vote:

    Constitution Annotated. “ArtI.S4.C1.2.1 States and Elections Clause.” Congress.gov. https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S4-C1-2/ALDE_00013577/

    There have been times that states allowed foreign residents to vote:

    Castellanos Canales, Arturo. “The Myths and Truths of Noncitizen Voting in the United States.” May 7, 2024. Forum. https://forumtogether.org/article/the-myths-and-truths-of-noncitizen-voting-in-the-united-states/

    There’s also been a change in the meaning of the word citizen throughout time:

    National Museum of American History. “Defining Citizenship.” Smithsonian. https://americanhistory.si.edu/explore/exhibitions/american-democracy/online/creating-citizens/defining-citizenship

    The word citizen is mentioned several times in the Constitution including as a requirement to become a member of the House and Senate, or to serve as President. Read your Constitution, kids.

    The Dred Scott case:

    Oyez. “Dred Scott v. Sandford.” https://www.oyez.org/cases/1850-1900/60us393

    There was no secret ballot:

    Wasley, Paula. “Back When Everyone Knew How You Voted.” Fall 2016. National Endowment for the Humanities. https://www.neh.gov/humanities/2016/fall/feature/back-when-everyone-knew-how-you-voted

    Especially when you have political machines and bosses:

    Britannica Editors. “Political Machine.” Updated February 20, 2026. https://www.britannica.com/topic/political-machine

    And this brings us to Edgar Allen Poe:

    Poetry Foundation. “Edgar Allan Poe.” https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/edgar-allan-poe

    It’s one theory:

    Geiling, Natasha. “The (Still) Mysterious Death of Edgar Allan Poe.” October 7, 2014. Smithsonian Magazine. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/still-mysterious-death-edgar-allan-poe-180952936/

    The practice of voter fraud that Mack describes was called cooping:

    Lapham’s Quarterly. “Miscellany.” https://www.laphamsquarterly.org/democracy/miscellany/man-was-used

    The case of Dred Scott v. Sandford:

    Urofsky, Melvin I. “Dred Scott Decision.” Updated September 26, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/event/Dred-Scott-decision

    The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court at the time was a guy called Roger Taney:

    Schumacher, Alvin J. “Roger B. Taney.” Updated July 9, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Roger-B-Taney

    The idea of state’s rights:

    Drake, Frederick Dean. “State’s Rights.” Updated August 5, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/topic/states-rights

    The Thirteenth,…:

    Constitution Annotated. “Thirteenth Amendment.” Congress.gov. https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-13/

    …the Fourteenth,…:

    Constitution Annotated. “Fourteenth Amendment.” Congress.gov. https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-14/

    …and Fifteenth Amendments:

    Constitution Annotated. “Fifteenth Amendment.” Congress.gov. https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-15/

    It happened after the Civil War:

    Weber, Jennifer L. “American Civil War.” Updated September 23, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/event/American-Civil-War

    When Ulysses S. Grant became President:

    Simon, John Y. “Ulysses S. Grant.” Updated September 18, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ulysses-S-Grant

    The rise of the KKK:

    Frantz, Elaine S. “The Rise (and Fall) of the First Ku Klux Klan.” Fall 2019. The Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History. https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/essays/rise-and-fall-first-ku-klux-klan

    The first Civil Rights Act is passed in 1866:

    National Constitution Center. “Civil Rights Act of 1866, ‘An Act to Protect All Persons in the United States in Their Civil Rights, and Furnish the Means of Their Vindication.” https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/historic-document-library/detail/civil-rights-act-of-1866-april-9-1866-an-act-to-protect-all-persons-in-the-united-states-in-their-civil-rights-and-furnish-the-means-of-their-vindication

    We have Reconstruction:

    Foner, Eric. “Reconstruction.” Updated September 26, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/event/Reconstruction-United-States-history

    It was during that time that you had Black enfranchisement, effectively:

    National Archives. “Black Americans and the Vote.” https://www.archives.gov/research/african-americans/vote

    That’s when you have the first Blacks in Southern legislatures elected:

    History.com Editors. “Black Leaders During Reconstruction.” Updated May 28, 2025. https://www.history.com/articles/black-leaders-during-reconstruction

    The first Black man to serve in the Senate:

    United States House of Representatives. “Revels, Hiram Rhodes.” https://history.house.gov/People/Listing/R/REVELS,-Hiram-Rhodes-(R000166)/

    The first Black man to serve in the House of Representatives:

    United States House of Representatives. “Representative Joseph Rainey of South Carolina, the First African American to Serve in the House.” https://history.house.gov/Historical-Highlights/1800-1850/Representative-Joseph-Rainey-of-South-Carolina,-the-first-African-American-to-serve-in-the-House/

    Then, in the election of 1876:

    Blackford, Sheila. “Disputed Election of 1876.” Miller Center. https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/educational-resources/disputed-election-1876

    The corrupt bargain, allegedly:

    History.com Editors. “Compromise of 1877.” Updated May 28, 2025. https://www.history.com/articles/compromise-of-1877

    Hayes maintained to his dying day that there was no corrupt bargain:

    Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Library and Museum. “Stubborn Myth of Corrupt Deal Regarding Hayes Persists 150 Years Later.” https://www.rbhayes.org/news/2026/02/26/general/stubborn-myth-of-corrupt-deal-regarding-hayes-persist-150-years-later/

    Because we are in the midst of America’s industrial boom:

    White, Richard. “The Rise of Industrial America, 1877–1900.” The Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History. https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/essays/rise-industrial-america-1877-1900

    To call it voter intimidation against Blacks would be the least of what was happening. There were beatings and assaults and murders:

    Equal Justice Initiative. “Reconstruction in America: Racial Violence After the Civil War, 1865–1876.” https://eji.org/report/reconstruction-in-america/

    They would say, “Well, if you want to vote, then you have to pass a literacy test.”:

    National Museum of American History. “Literacy Tests.” Smithsonian. https://americanhistory.si.edu/explore/exhibitions/american-democracy/online/vote-voice/keeping-vote/state-rules-federal-rules/literacy-tests

    The political leadership of Southern states, which was pulled from much the same class of society as from before the Civil War, were not really interested in Blacks or poor Whites being educated:

    Delevingne, Lawrence and Lasseter, Tom. “Heirs of Power.” December 13, 2023. Reuters. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-slavery-families/

    Grandfather clause:

    Britannica Editors. “Grandfather Clause.” Updated July 22, 2020. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/topic/grandfather-clause

    Registration requirements:

    Cresswell, Stephen. “Mississippi Constitution Disfranchises Black Voters.” 2023. EBSCO. https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/law/mississippi-constitution-disfranchises-black-voters/

    Poll taxes:

    National Museum of American History. “Poll Taxes.” Smithsonian. https://americanhistory.si.edu/explore/exhibitions/american-democracy/online/vote-voice/keeping-vote/state-rules-federal-rules/poll-taxes

    Occasional rises of the KKK:

    Lay, Shawn. “Ku Klux Klan in the Twentieth Century.” Updated August 12, 2020. New Georgia Encyclopedia. https://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/ku-klux-klan-in-the-twentieth-century/

    It was called the Australian ballot:

    Britannica Editors. “Australian Ballot.” Updated May 3, 2024. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Australian-ballot

    There was a Civil Rights Act that Congress passed in 1875:

    Untied States Senate. “Landmark Legislation: Civil Rights Act of 1875.” https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/CivilRightsAct1875.htm

    They’re called the Civil Rights Cases:

    Oyez. “The Civil Rights Cases.” https://www.oyez.org/cases/1850-1900/109us3

    The Civil Rights Act of 1964:

    National Archives. “Civil Rights Act (1964).” https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/civil-rights-act

    The Commerce Clause:

    Constitution Annotated. “ArtI.S8.C3.1 Overview of Commerce Clause.” Congress.gov. https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C3-1/ALDE_00013403/

    The Civil Rights Act of 1957:

    United States House of Representatives. “The Civil Rights Act of 1957.” https://history.house.gov/Historical-Highlights/1951-2000/The-Civil-Rights-Act-of-1957/

    Albert Gore, Sr.:

    Neal, James H. “Albert Arnold Gore, Sr.” Updated March 1, 2018. Tennessee Encyclopedia. https://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/entries/albert-arnold-gore-sr/

    Estes Kefauver:

    Brown, Jr., Theodore. “Carey Estes Kefauver.” Updated March 1, 2018. Tennessee Encyclopedia. https://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/entries/carey-estes-kefauver/

    Lyndon Johnson:

    Britannica Editors. “Lyndon B. Johnson.” Updated September 29, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Lyndon-B-Johnson

    Creating the U.S. Civil Rights Commission:

    U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. “Our Mission.” https://www.usccr.gov/about/mission

    Then you have Freedom Riders:

    Smith Holmes, Marian. “The Freedom Riders, Then and Now.” February 2009. Smithsonian Magazine. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-freedom-riders-then-and-now-45351758/

    Motor voter bills:

    Department of Justice. “The National Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA).” Updated November 1, 2024. https://www.justice.gov/crt/national-voter-registration-act-1993-nvra

    Unlike some other countries in the world:

    Pew Research Center. “Election Day Around the World.” July 2, 2026. https://www.pewresearch.org/chart/election-day-around-the-world/

    To vote in American, most times, you have to take off from work:

    Movement Advancement Project. “Election Day Holidays and Paid Time Off to Vote.” https://mapresearch.org/democracy-map/election-day-holidays-and-paid-time-off-to-vote/

    Actually, one of the main reasons mail-in voting began was to accommodate soldiers who were stationed away from their polling places:

    MIT Election Data & Science Lab. “Voting by Mail and Absentee Voting.” Updated June 24, 2026. https://electionlab.mit.edu/research/voting-mail-and-absentee-voting

    When you consider how much our politics is influenced by money:

    League of Women Voters. “Money in Politics.” https://www.lwv.org/voting-rights/money-politics

    It’s Texas law:

    Vote Texas. “Voters With Disabilities.” https://www.votetexas.gov/voters-with-special-needs/

    Though, there are Federal guidelines as well:

    USA.gov. “Voter Accessibility Laws.” https://www.usa.gov/voter-accessibility-laws

    Steve is correct, you can vote at any polling place in Bexar County in both early voting and the general election:

    Vote Texas. “What’s Allowed at the Polling Place?” https://www.votetexas.gov/voting/where.html

    That was the big brouhaha in Dallas in the last primary election:

    Contreras, Natalia. “Dallas Democrats Drop Lawsuit Seeking to Count Primary Ballots Cast During Extended Voting Hours.” March 12, 2026. The Texas Tribune. https://www.texastribune.org/2026/03/12/dallas-county-democrats-lawsuit-withdrawal-march-primary-votes/

    This is the drop box incident that Steve described:

    Killough, Ashley; Lavandera, Ed; and LeBlanc, Paul. “Texas Governor Limits Election Drop Boxes to One Per County in Sprawling State. October 5, 2020. CNN. https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/politics/texas-governor-drop-off-locations-ballots

    President Trump, the whole, “The vote is rigged…”:

    Lee, Ella. “‘Sowing Doubt’: Trump’s Attempt to Change Voting Causes Chaos for State Officials.” September 5, 2026. Financial Times. https://www.ft.com/content/47ac914f-ab0e-441b-9152-9ef06dc17741?syn-25a6b1a6=1

    Trump made the “stand back and stand by” comment during the 2020 election:

    Ronayne, Kathleen and Kunzelman, Michael. “Trump Doesn’t Disavow White Supremacy, Tells Far-Right Extremist Group to ‘Stand By.’” September 30, 2020. PBS News. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-trump-doesnt-disavow-white-supremacy-tells-far-right-extremist-group-to-stand-by

    While there is no documentation that he has made a similar comment recently, he has made other statements to intimidate voters:

    Anderson, Zac. “Trump Doesn’t Rule Out Invoking Insurrection Act Around Election.” October 1, 2026. USA Today. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/10/01/trump-national-emergency-midterm-elections/92036013007/

    You can be a poll watcher:

    Vote Texas. “Poll Watchers.” https://www.votetexas.gov/get-involved/poll-watchers.html

    They have demarcated the distance:

    Vote Texas. “What’s NOT Allowed at the Polling Place.” https://www.votetexas.gov/voting/allowed-at-the-polling-place.html

    Actual cases of voter fraud are so incredibly rare:

    Abusaif, Yasmin. “Debunking the Voter Fraud Myth, Again.” September 9, 2026. American Bar Association. https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/resources/human-rights/2026-september/debunking-voter-fraud-myth-again/

    It gets referred to as voter suppression:

    Duignan, Brian. “Voter Suppression.” Updated April 28, 2025. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/topic/voter-suppression

    Republican controlled legislatures are proposing certain measures:

    Greene, Connor. “As the Senate Weighs the Trump-Backed SAVE Act, These States Are Advancing Their Own Voting Restrictions.” April 3, 2026. Time. https://time.com/article/2026/04/03/voting-restrictions-citizenship-proof-state-laws-ballot-measures-trump-save-act/

    Not a nice autumnal Scotch:

    Texas Parks and Wildlife. “Balmorhea State Park.” https://tpwd.texas.gov/state-parks/balmorhea

    Not a state park in Texas:

    Edradour. “Welcome to Edradour.” https://www.edradour.com/

    Some Voter ID laws:

    Vote Texas. “Voter ID.” https://www.votetexas.gov/voting/need-id.html

    You can get a state ID card:

    Vote Texas. “Identification Requirements for Voting." https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/driver-license/election-identification-certificate-eic

    You can do a provisional ballot:

    National Conference of State Legislatures. “Provisional Ballots.” Updated April 16, 2025. https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/provisional-ballots

    Mail-in voting—some restrictions have been proposed but challenged:

    Jones Capparell, Jessica. “What Happened With Mail-In Ballots at SCOTUS?” Updated September 17, 2026. League of Women Voters. https://www.lwv.org/blog/what-happened-mail-ballots-scotus

    Some states have been turning them over voluntarily, like Texas:

    Contreras, Natalia and Birenbaum, Gabby. “Texas Hands Over Complete List of Registered Voters to Trump Administration.” January 9, 2026. The Texas Tribune. https://www.texastribune.org/2026/01/09/texas-voter-roll-trump-administration-justice-department-democrats-dnc/

    Seriously, a lot of people are up for election in November:

    Texas Secretary of State. “Offices Up for Election in 2026.” https://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/candidates/guide/2026/offices2026.shtml

    The Supreme Court effectively gutted the Voting Rights Act of 1965:

    Hoffman, Grayson. “SCOTUS’s Final Blow Dismantling the Voting Rights Act.” Updated May 21, 2026. League of Women Voters. https://www.lwv.org/blog/scotuss-final-blow-dismantling-voting-rights-act

    They gerrymandered here in Texas right before the primaries:

    Howe, Amy. “Supreme Court Allows Texas to Use Redistricting Map Challenged as Racially Discriminatory.” December 4, 2025. SCOTUSblog. https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/12/supreme-court-allows-texas-to-use-redistricting-map-challenged-as-racially-discriminatory/

    Suddenly, all the voter ID cards were out of date:

    Contreras, Natalia. “Texas’ Troubled Election Software and New Congressional Maps Delay Voter Registration Cards.” February 5, 2026. The Texas Tribune. https://www.texastribune.org/2026/02/05/texas-voter-registration-card-delays-elections-2026/

    Absolute props to Bexar County elections:

    Bexar County Elections. https://elections.bexar.gov/

    The first cocktail was a Trinidad Sour:

    https://www.liquor.com/recipes/trinidad-sour/

    Steve was closest. Orgeat is pronounced [or-zhat]:

    Merriam-Webster. “Orgeat.” https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/orgeat

    All the way from Sweden, salted licorice:

    Richdale, Andrew. “The Trick to Loving Scandinavian Salt Licorice is to Stop Thinking it’s Candy.” January 13, 2017. Saveur. https://www.saveur.com/scandinavian-salt-licorice-salmiak/

    The best kind–Bilar:

    Swedish Candy Store. “Ahlgrens Bilar Original.” https://swedishcandystore.com/products/ahlgrens-bilar-original?srsltid=AU7gw4UScZl-M8pQ-j6P7k-5Oom2VN4wK5YoQBe2Cf_0n5K0BYj-WNuy

    So, Anne got this completely wrong. Swedish Fish were originally made by a Swedish company, but they were created and marketed specifically for North America. (Hence, her Swedish friends being unaware of their existence.) They are now made by Mondelēz, and Haribo remains uninvolved:

    Rodriguez McRobbie, Linda. “A Brief History of Swedish Fish.” October 24, 2017. Mental Floss. https://www.mentalfloss.com/food/candy/brief-history-swedish-fish

    Also, we at Civics on the Rocks would like to take this opportunity to apologize to anyone who suffers from misophonia.

    You can look up Congressional records:

    Congress.gov. “Congressional Record.” https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record

    Anne had a Saratoga:

    https://www.diffordsguide.com/cocktails/recipe/2196/saratoga-cocktail

    That’s not it:

    https://youtu.be/ODmhPsgqGgQ?si=oYFbInyIr1symupd

    The high/low–priority/urgency thing:

    Eisenhower. “Introducing the Eisenhower Matrix.” https://www.eisenhower.me/eisenhower-matrix/

    Check if you’re registered:

    Texas.gov. “Texas Voter Registration.” https://www.texas.gov/living-in-texas/texas-voter-registration/

    Vote early. Early voting in Texas begins on October 19:

    League of Women Voters. “2026 General Election Key Dates.” https://www.lwvtexas.org/#gsc.tab=0

    And Abraham Lincoln was the vampire hunter, not Dwight D. Eisenhower. But you already knew that.

    1 hr 19 min
  • Note to Our Listeners

    Hey y’all. We apologize but we will not be posting a full episode this month. We have a great one recorded for you, but our editing team has suffered a loss in the family. Thank you for your understanding and we’ll talk to you again in October.

    1 min
  • We’re Three!

    Thanks for listening, folks! We love having you here! Our birthday gift to you is A Slightly Tipsy Squirrel. Cheers!

    40 min
  • Liberty and Justice for All

    Mack gives examples from real life, Steves waxes philosophical about liberty, and Anne pursues happiness.

    REFERENCES

    The idea of liberty and justice for all has been a thing from the beginning, but the phrase is best known from the Pledge of Allegiance:

    Greene, Charlotte. “The Pledge of Allegiance.” USConstitution.net. https://usconstitution.net/pledge-html/

    Can we start with the property-owning white men:

    Johnston, Mindy. “Timeline of Voting Rights in the United States.” August 28, 2024. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Timeline-of-Voting-Rights-in-the-United-States

    A 700-year monarchy:

    Britannica Editors. “Kings and Queens of Britain.” Updated December 5, 2024. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/place/Kings-and-Queens-of-Britain-1856932

    Many of the states, on their own by the early to mid-1800s, are expanding who can vote:

    University of North Texas. “A Brief History of Voting in America.” https://guides.library.unt.edu/voting/history-of-voting-America

    Take the free exercise of religion:

    Constitution Annotated. “Amdt1.4.1 Overview of Free Exercise Clause.” https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt1-4-1/ALDE_00013221/

    Originally the Bill of Rights did not apply to states, that comes with the Fourteenth Amendment later:

    Legal Information Institute. “Fourteenth Amendment.” Cornell Law School. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fourteenth_amendment_0

    Public schools in Massachusetts were run by the church:

    Roos, David. “What School Was Like in the 13 Colonies.” Updated March 19, 2026. History.com. https://www.history.com/articles/13-colonies-school

    On their own, states are going away from the connection between the government and the state-sanctioned churches that they had:

    Baily, Ellen and Newton, Heather. “Separation of Church and State: Overview.” 2024. EBSCO. https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/law/separation-church-and-state-overview

    Around the time of the Civil War:

    Weber, Jennifer L. “American Civil War.” Updated April 19, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/event/American-Civil-War

    We’re recording this on Juneteenth:

    Britannica Editors. “Juneteenth.” Updated June 17, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Juneteenth/additional-info#history

    Wyoming in 1869:

    WyoHistory.org “Women’s Suffrage and Women’s Rights.” https://www.wyohistory.org/encyclopedia/topics/womens-suffrage-and-womens-rights

    The Nineteenth Amendment:

    National Archives. “19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: Women’s Right to Vote (1920).” Reviewed February 8, 2022. https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/19th-amendment

    When that amendment was ratified, around half the states already let women vote:

    Nelson Alexander, Brooke. “20 States Where Women Could Vote Before 1920.” Updated February 24, 2026. Reader’s Digest. https://www.rd.com/article/states-where-women-could-vote-before-1920/

    Texas, nevertheless, ratified the Nineteenth Amendment:

    Dallas Historical Society. “Suffrage in Texas.” https://www.dallashistory.org/suffrage-in-texas/

    Unless you’re in the South:

    Merrit, Keri Leigh. “Voting Rights and Restrictions in Pre-Emancipation America.” The Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History. https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/essays/voting-rights-and-restrictions-pre-emancipation-america

    There was a lot of variability:

    Olson, Grace. “The States Decide How Elections are Run.” July 9, 2025. National Conference of State Legislatures. https://www.ncsl.org/state-legislatures-news/details/the-states-decide-how-elections-are-run

    There were some states that would even let foreign residents vote:

    Espinoza Jaen, Caryl. “Can Green Card Holders Vote in U.S. Elections?” June 18, 2026. Manifest. https://manifestlaw.com/blog/can-green-card-holders-vote/

    Citizenship as we understand it now was not a concept in the 1800s:

    Pence Law Library. “The Fight for the Right to Vote.” Updated September 16, 2024. https://wcl.american.libguides.com/voting/history/timeline

    Not necessarily better than it was 5 years ago:

    Waldman, Michael. “Epic Corruption in Plain Sight.” May 19, 2026. Brennan Center for Justice. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/epic-corruption-plain-sight

    That’s going to restrict some people’s voting rights:

    Stone, Peter. “Experts Alarmed as Trump Launches Broad-Front Attack on U.S. Voting Rights.” June 16, 2026. The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/16/trump-voting-rights-elections

    The language is even in the Declaration:

    National Archives. “Declaration of Independence: A Transcription.” https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript

    The letters between John and Abigail

    Henderson Crane, Jennifer L. “Analysis: Letters of Abigail Adams to John Adams.” 2022. EBSCO. https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/analysis-letters-abigail-adams-john-adams

    There were women back then, there were even men back then, that thought women should vote:

    Museum of the American Revolution. “When Women Lost the Vote: A Revolutionary Story, 1776–1807.” https://www.amrevmuseum.org/virtualexhibits/when-women-lost-the-vote-a-revolutionary-story

    For that matter, there were even abolitionists back then:

    Negussie, Tesfaye. “Quakers, One of the First Abolitionists, Renew Their Call for Resistance as America Turns 250.” July 3, 2026. ABC News. https://abcnews.com/US/quakers-1st-abolitionists-renew-call-resistance-america-turns/story?id=134422099

    The Emancipation Proclamation:

    National Archives. “Transcript of the Proclamation.” https://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featured-documents/emancipation-proclamation/transcript.html

    People who may not know the history:

    Gardullo, Paul. “Emancipation Proclamation: An Introduction.” 2022. National Museum of African American History and Culture. https://nmaahc.si.edu/explore/stories/emancipation-proclamation-striking-mighty-blow-slavery/introduction

    There were parishes in Louisiana that were under control of the Union Army:

    Sacher, John M. “Civil War Louisiana.” Updated June 24, 2024. 64 Parishes. https://64parishes.org/entry/civil-war-louisiana

    General Gordan Granger:

    Schwartz, Allison. “Gordon Granger.” National Museum of the United States Army. https://www.thenmusa.org/biographies/gordon-granger/

    He used his powers as Commander in Chief during time of rebellion:

    Pinkster, Matthew. “Lincoln and War Powers.” 2013. Dickinson College. https://housedivided.dickinson.edu/sites/lincoln/warpowers/

    The Thirteenth Amendment:

    Constitution Annotated. “Thirteenth Amendment.” https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-13/

    It would be ratified:

    National Archives. “13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: Abolition of Slavery (1865).” https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/13th-amendment

    Later on, when there is a lot of internal migration:

    Gregory, James. “The Great Migration (African American).” University of Washington. https://depts.washington.edu/moving1/black_migration.shtml

    Opal Lee was one of these community members:

    National Museum of African American History and Culture. “Who is Opal Lee? The Story Behind the Grandmother of Juneteenth.” https://nmaahc.si.edu/explore/stories/who-opal-lee

    Like how Memorial Day started:

    Waxman, Olivia B. “The Overlooked Black History of Memorial Day.” May 22, 2020. https://time.com/5836444/black-memorial-day/

    There are people who are opposed to it:

    Stewart, Celina. “Juneteenth and the Danger of Selective Memory.” June 19, 2026. League of Women Voters. https://www.lwv.org/blog/juneteenth-and-danger-selective-memory

    The characterization of the last founding father:

    Pierre, Don. “Martin Luther King, Jr. Was America’s Last Founding Father.” January 20, 2020. The National Interest. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/martin-luther-king-was-americas-last-founding-father-115381

    He was murdered:

    The Martin Luther King, Jr. Research and Education Institute. “Assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr.” https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/assassination-martin-luther-king-jr

    How many times was he thrown in jail:

    Black History. “Martin Luther King, Jr. was Arrested 29 Times for These So-Called Crimes.” https://www.blackhistory.com/2019/11/martin-luther-king-jr-was-arrested-29-times-crimes.html

    Everyone should read the letter from Birmingham jail:

    Bill of Rights Institute. “Letter From Birmingham Jail.” https://billofrightsinstitute.org/primary-sources/letter-from-birmingham-jail/

    We’re seeing that today with the queer community:

    ACLU. “Mapping Attacks on LGBTQ Rights in U.S. State Legislatures in 2026.” https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights-2026

    With trans folk:

    Trans Legislation Tracker. “2026 Anti-Trans Bills Tracker.” https://translegislation.com/

    Justice Scalia:

    Houck, Aaron M. “Antonin Scalia.” Updated March 7, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Antonin-Scalia/additional-info#history

    We could not find the exact case that Mack was referencing, but here is another illustration of Justice Scalia’s opinion on rights:

    Whitaker, Morgan. “Scalia: Supreme Court Shouldn’t ‘Invent New Minorities’.” August 20, 2013. NBC News. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna52802025

    Ninth Amendment:

    Constitution Annotated. “Ninth Amendment.” https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-9/

    There’s this quote from Michelangelo:

    Michelangelo. “The sculpture is already complete…” AZ Quotes. https://www.azquotes.com/quote/722675

    Mack got this one all wrong (and Steve backed him). No one is sure who originally said, “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty,” but Civics at the Rocks couldn’t find anyone who thinks it might be Demosthenes or John Adams. Mostly, everybody agrees it wasn’t Thomas Jefferson:

    Deis, Robert. “Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.” January 27, 2026. This Day in Quotes. https://www.thisdayinquotes.com/2026/01/eternal-vigilance-is-the-price-of-liberty/

    And, in case you’re wondering:

    Murphy, James J. “Demosthenes.” Updated February 27, 2024. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Demosthenes-Greek-statesman-and-orator

    Orange Blossom cocktail:

    https://www.liquor.com/recipes/orange-blossom/

    There are, apparently, a lot of variations on the New Fashioned cocktail. This is the closest to what we had:

    https://www.cocktailsdrinks.com/new-fashioned-cocktail-recipe/

    Roosevelt cocktail:

    https://www.liquor.com/recipes/roosevelt/

    It’s vanillin:

    National Library of Medicine. “Vanillin.” https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Vanillin

    Rhum Barbancourt, which is from Haiti:

    https://barbancourt.com/en

    What’s happening in Haiti:

    Dickinson, Daniel. “‘Hope’ for Haiti’s Political Future as Some 300 Groups Reportedly Register for Upcoming Elections.” March 16, 2026. United Nations. https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/03/1167143

    It was a whole big thing:

    Nawaz, Amna; Adwoa Antwi-Boasiako, Nana; and Merchant, Azhar. “How Americans are Welcoming World Cup Fans From Across the Globe.” June 18, 2026. PBS News. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-americans-are-welcoming-world-cup-fans-from-across-the-globe

    America’s big birthday:

    https://america250.org/

    The first of its kind (at least in the modern era):

    Dutta, Somapika. “10 Oldest Democracies in the World.” Updated 2026. Oldest.org https://www.oldest.org/politics/democracies/

    Many countries follow our model:

    Bradertscher, Eric and Stingl, Alexandar. “The United States and World Democracy: An Overview.” 2024. EBSCO. https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/political-science/united-states-and-world-democracy-overview

    Some people are under attack:

    Human Rights Watch. “U.S.: Trump Administration’s Pervasive Attacks on Rights.” February 4, 2026. https://www.hrw.org/news/2026/02/04/us-trump-administrations-pervasive-attacks-on-rights

    The Bicentennial:

    Kennedy, Leslie. “How Americans Celebrated the 1976 Bicentennial: Photos.” Updated June 25, 2026. History.com. https://www.history.com/articles/american-bicentennial-1976-photos

    The United States having to leave Vietnam very rapidly:

    Spector, Ronald H. “The Fall of South Vietnam.” Updated February 6, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/event/Vietnam-War/The-fall-of-South-Vietnam

    The energy crisis:

    National Museum of American History. “Energy Crisis.” https://www.americanhistory.si.edu/explore/exhibitions/american-enterprise/online/consumer-era/energy-crisis

    And Watergate:

    Perlstein, Rick. “Watergate Scandal.” Updated June 12, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/event/Watergate-Scandal

    Carter ends up defeating Ford:

    U.S. Polling Data. “1976 Presidential Election.” https://uspollingdata.com/elections/1976/

    No, there were issues. For instance:

    Britannica Editors. “Japanese American Internment.” Update May 11, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/event/Japanese-American-internment/additional-info#history

    E pluribus unum:

    Kenny, Miles. “E Pluribus Unum.” Updated December 13, 2025. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/topic/E-pluribus-unum-United-States-motto

    The great American experiment:

    Coens, Thomas. “Why Franklin, Jefferson, and Lincoln Considered American Democracy an ‘Experiment’—and Were Unsure if it Would Survive.” December 5, 2023. The Conversation. https://theconversation.com/why-franklin-washington-and-lincoln-considered-american-democracy-an-experiment-and-were-unsure-if-it-would-survive-213852

    The Great Depression:

    Pells, Richard H. “Great Depression.” Updated May 20, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/event/Great-Depression/additional-info#history

    During Hoover’s presidency:

    Britannica Editors. “Herbert Hoover.” Updated June 29, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Herbert-Hoover

    You have the Dust Bowl:

    Johnston, Mindy. “Dust Bowl.” Updated June 3, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/place/Dust-Bowl

    Roosevelt wins in ’32:

    Leuchtenburg, William E. “Franklin D. Roosevelt: Campaigns and Elections.” Miller Center. https://millercenter.org/president/fdroosevelt/campaigns-and-elections

    There were Americans who were like…I’m either going to be communist or fascist:

    Gregory, James. “Great Depression in Washington State: Radicalism.” 2009. University of Washington. https://depts.washington.edu/depress/radicalism.shtml

    We at Civics at the Rocks couldn’t find any inspirational speeches given by the mayor of New York for the week of June 19, 2026. If you feel so inclined to look, you might have better luck. In completely unrelated news: GO SPURS GO! POR VIDA!

    Here’s Obama’s speech:

    NBC Chicago Staff. “Read Barack Obama’s Full Speech at Grand Opening for his Namesake Center in Chicago.” June 18, 2026. 5 Chicago. https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/read-barack-obamas-full-speech-at-grand-opening-for-his-namesake-center-in-chicago/3950680/

    Here’s Michele Obama’s speech:

    NBC Chicago Staff. “‘Hope is All We Have’: Read Michelle Obama’s Full Speech at Obama Center Grand Opening.” June 18, 2026. 5 Chicago. https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/hope-is-all-we-have-read-michelle-obamas-full-speech-at-obama-center-grand-opening/3950620/

    A cocktail called a Metropolitan:

    https://www.cocktailwave.com/recipes/metropolitan

    Mack is referencing Matthew 25:40:

    Bible Analysis. “What Does Jesus' Teaching on Treating the 'Least of These' Reveal About Our Relationship With God and Our Understanding of Neighborly Love?” https://www.bibleanalysis.org/what-does-jesus-teaching-on-treating-the-least-of-these-reveal-about-our-relationship-with-god-and-our-understanding-of-neighborly-love/

    And, unlike Mack and Steve, Anne was not alive for the Bicentennial. But you already knew that.

    1 hr 5 min
  • What is Continuity of Government?

    Steve shows up prepared, Mack drops a bombshell or two, and Anne gets wasted.

    REFERENCES

    It’s when the vase of flowers is suddenly on the left-hand side of the screen:

    Film Draft. “What is Continuity in Film? Definitions, Types, and Examples.” August 26, 2025. https://filmdaft.com/what-is-continuity-in-film-definition-types-examples/

    It really became a serious concern with the advent of the threat of nuclear war:

    Tegmark, Max. “Here’s How Bad a Nuclear War Would Actually Be.” June 29, 2023. Time. https://time.com/6290977/nuclear-war-impact-essay/

    During the Cold War:

    Britannica Editors. “Cold War.” Updated February 18, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/event/Cold-War

    Including Washington, D.C.:

    https://washington.org/

    Sate, local, tribal, territorial:

    FEMA. “Guide to Continuity of Government [PDF].” July 2021. https://www.fema.gov/sites/default/files/documents/fema_sltt-cog-guidance_070921.pdf

    For Texas, it’s not a joke that we kind of rely on HEB:

    HEB Newsroom. “HEB Disaster Relief.” https://newsroom.heb.com/disaster-relief/

    Ye olde Continental Congress:

    Britannica Editors. “Continental Congress.” Updated October 11, 2025. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Continental-Congress

    We may have to leave Philadelphia and go to Baltimore because the British are coming:

    United States House of Representatives. “Meeting Places for the Continental and Confederation Congresses.” https://history.house.gov/People/Continental-Congress/Meeting-Places/

    Anne was just trying to be funny. It’s quite nice:

    https://baltimore.org/

    Basically, it’s an emergency plan. You could also call it a contingency plan:

    This vs. That. “The Contingency Plan vs. The Emergency Plan: What’s the Difference?” https://thisvsthat.io/the-contingency-plan-vs-the-emergency-plan

    In the previous episode:

    https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-n7xcc-1ad17a2

    We talked about the Twenty-Fifth Amendment:

    Constitution Annotated. “Twenty-Fifth Amendment.” https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-25/

    The presidential succession:

    USA.gov. “Order of Presidential Succession.” https://www.usa.gov/presidential-succession

    Think about royal houses of Europe:

    Veldman, Sarah. “A Comprehensive Guide to the Royal Families of Europe.” Updated September 20, 2025. The List. https://www.thelist.com/1524478/royal-families-of-europe-guide/

    That was “Designated Survivor,” the series:

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5296406/

    Mack is right. They did start doing it when Reagan was president:

    Su, Amelia. “The Designated Survivor Explained—Why One Leader Stays Hidden.” February 24, 2026. Los Angeles Magazine. https://lamag.com/news-and-politics/the-designated-survivor-explained-why-one-leader-stays-hidden/

    At the State of the Union Address, you have the president, vice president, speaker of the house, but you also have all of Congress, most of the Cabinet, and some of the Supreme Court justices, joint chiefs:

    Mullery, Way and Chol, Annette. “Who Sits Where at Trump’s State of the Union Address: A Visual Guide.” February 23, 2026. CNN. https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/23/politics/seating-chart-state-of-the-union-vis

    There have been threats (note that this list is a brief summary from 2024 so it is not comprehensive and does not include the attacks on President Trump):

    Congress.gov. “U.S. Secret Service: Threats to and Assaults on Sitting Presidents and Vice Presidents [PDF].” Updated October 23, 2024. https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/IF/PDF/IF11732/IF11732.4.pdf

    Mack is again correct. It was for Obama’s inauguration:

    Reuters. “U.S. Probes Potential Obama Inauguration Threat.” January 20, 2009. https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us-politics/us-probes-potential-obama-inauguration-threat-idUSTRE50J4RT/

    The documentary about the presidents’ chiefs of staff is called The Presidents’ Gatekeepers:

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2331119/

    The line from Mars Attacks!:

    https://youtu.be/HfcMl1OKJGw?si=IZwz2CgMPjVoqQ1X

    Like the Greenbrier Resort in West Virginia:

    Matchar, Emily. “The Town That Kept Its Nuclear Bunker a Secret for Three Decades.” April 9, 2024. Smithsonian Magazine. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-town-that-kept-its-nuclear-bunker-a-secret-for-three-decades-180984107/

    Overnight, they lower them into a bomb shelter:

    Kratz, Jessie. “Protecting the Bill of Rights: the Mosler Vault.” December 17, 2015. National Archives. https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2015/12/17/protecting-the-bill-of-rights-the-mosler-vault/

    Soviets got the atomic bomb sooner than people thought:

    Atomic Heritage Foundation. “Soviet Atomic Program—1946.” https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/history/soviet-atomic-program-1946/

    And then the hydrogen bomb:

    Britannica Editors. “Thermonuclear Bomb.” Updated February 6, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/technology/thermonuclear-bomb

    Eisenhower was really down and depressed about the threat of nuclear war:

    Dwight D. Eisenhower Presidential Library, Museum, and Boyhood Home. “Atoms for Peace.” https://www.eisenhowerlibrary.gov/research/online-documents/atoms-peace

    The concept of ballistic missiles:

    Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance. “Ballistic Missile Basics.” https://www.missiledefenseadvocacy.org/missile-threat-and-proliferation/missile-basics/ballistic-missile-basics/

    Because the Nazis built the V-2:

    Britannica Editors. “V-2 Rocket.” Updated April 24, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/technology/V-2-rocket

    Sooner or later, we’re going to have intercontinental ballistic missiles:

    Britannica Editors. “ICBM.” Updated April 29, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/technology/ICBM

    They’re carrying gravity bombs:

    International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons. “What Are Gravity Bombs and Why is the U.S. Building the New B61-13 Nuclear Weapon?” https://www.icanw.org/faq_what_are_gravity_bombs_b6113

    It’s not what was in “The Day After”:

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085404/

    The black-and-white movies:

    https://youtu.be/P73Gz0TaJgE?si=tvYvoQQXg3KwHCZM

    Our people knew about Bletchley Park:

    Lewis, Robert. “Bletchley Park.” Updated April 6, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/place/Bletchley-Park

    And where Churchill ran the war from:

    Imperial War Museums. “Cabinet War Rooms.” https://www.iwm.org.uk/visits/churchill-war-rooms/cabinet-war-rooms

    They also looked at what the Germans had:

    Fraga, Kaleena. “Inside the Führerbunker, The Nazi Hideout Where Adolf Hitler Lived, Got Married, and Died in the Waning Days of World War II.” Updated April 3, 2024. All That’s Interesting. https://allthatsinteresting.com/fuhrerbunker

    The Maginot Line:

    Britannica Editors. “Maginot Line.” Updated March 6, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Maginot-Line

    Turning into badgers:

    Texas Parks and Wildlife. “American Badger.” https://tpwd.texas.gov/education/resources/texas-junior-naturalists/watching-wildlife/american-badger

    Anne says mole people:

    https://youtu.be/y-dAgOWtBwM?si=0qzvJ-7dfu33JjNX

    We were building some fighter planes that were actually dedicated interceptor aircraft:

    Britannica Editors. “Fighter Aircraft.” Updated October 16, 2025. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/technology/fighter-aircraft

    Testing that was being done out in Nevada:

    Kautz, Justin. “Nevada Test Site.” Updated March 10, 2025. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/place/Nevada-Test-Site/additional-info#history

    Like if you can jump in a fridge and protect yourself:

    https://youtu.be/jn4Vhkmb4Lw?si=9OteiSYh4lEBMnPU

    The headquarters for the Strategic Air Command was at Offutt Airforce Base in Nebraska:

    https://www.offutt.af.mil/

    When they built NORAD into Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado:

    North American Aerospace Defense Command. “Cheyenne Mountain Complex.” April 26, 2013. https://www.norad.mil/Newsroom/Fact-Sheets/Article-View/Article/578775/cheyenne-mountain-complex/

    Raven Rock, also known as Site R:

    Suciu, Peter. “What to Know About ‘Raven Rock,’ the U.S. Government’s Doomsday Bunker.” November 11, 2025. The National Interest. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/what-to-know-about-raven-rock-us-governments-doomsday-bunker-ps-111125

    They also built the facility at Mount Weather:

    Hughes, Trevor. “The U.S. Government is Upgrading a Secretive FEMA Bunker. Why? That’s Classified.” Updated May 1, 2025. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/04/30/federal-government-is-upgrading-a-secret-bunker-why-its-classified/83370527007/

    Nope, it’s the Appalachian Mountains.

    Camp David:

    National Museum of American Diplomacy. “Camp David: Presidential Retreat and International Meeting Site.” July 12, 2021. https://diplomacy.state.gov/camp-david-presidential-retreat-and-international-meeting-site/

    In a novel from the 1930s called Lost Horizon:

    James Hilton. Lost Horizon. 1933. Macmillan.

    FDR loved the movie:

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029162/

    The Dolittle Raid in April of ’42:

    Britannica Editors. “Doolittle Raid.” Updated April 11, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/event/Doolittle-Raid

    There was an Essex-class aircraft carrier built in World War II called the USS Shangri-la:

    Carlin, Maya. “Shangri-la: The Essex-Class Aircraft Carrier No Nation Wanted to ‘Test’” September 23, 2024. The National Interest. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/shangri-la-essex-class-aircraft-carrier-no-nation-wanted-test-209173

    Where SAC was:

    Britannica Editors. “Strategic Air Command.” Updated March 20, 2023. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Strategic-Air-Command-United-States-Air-Force

    On September 11:

    Bergen, Peter L. “September 11 Attacks.” Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/event/September-11-attacks/The-attacks

    Where Airforce One went to after Florida:

    The White House Historical Association. “President Bush Arrives at Offutt Air Force Base on September 11, 2001.” https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/fotoware?id=6052da61-c33a-4d96-8209-cb3bb90b7669

    WarGames-type places:

    https://youtu.be/s93KC4AGKnY?si=YTdCW6gQ1Y8Cqe88

    A Soviet Tu-95:

    Gitzgerald, Clare. “Tupolev Tu-95: The Soviet-Era Bomber That Could See Nearly 100 Years of Active Service.” January 15, 2024. War History Online. https://www.warhistoryonline.com/aircraft/tupelov-tu-95.html

    They’re on springs:

    Grundhauser, Eric. “Cheyenne Mountain Complex.” September 17, 2014. Atlas Obscura. https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/cheyenne-mountain-nuclear-bunker

    Like the E-4B, it’s also known as Nightwatch:

    Air Force. “E-4B.” June 2024. https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/article/104503/e-4b/

    Then Air Force One:

    Britannica Editors. “Air Force One.” Updated July 31, 2025. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Air-Force-One

    So like, from Independence Day:

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116629/

    It was a pivotal scene:

    https://youtu.be/yZk9abWlK5c?si=hjdW-qhe8bhAu4xx

    Mack is correct. Independence Day was released in 1996.

    The guy from “Taxi”:

    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002139/

    Where Data worked at Area 51:

    https://youtu.be/fantzIbRyaE?si=9T2I4utdA2mjbtmW

    When Lyndon Johnson flew on the presidential Lockheed JetStar:

    National Museum of the United States Air Force. “Lockheed VC-140B JetStar.” https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/195808/lockheed-vc-140b-jetstar/

    Marine One:

    Tikkanen, Amy. “Marine One.” Updated March 9, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Marine-One

    Remember when President George W. Bush landed on the Abraham Lincoln:

    History.com. “George W. Bush Declares Mission Accomplished [Video].” https://www.history.com/speeches/george-w-bush-declares-mission-accomplished

    Mack was close. He was flying aboard an S-3B Viking:

    National Naval Aviation Museum. “S-3B Viking ‘Navy One’.” https://www.history.navy.mil/content/history/museums/nnam/explore/collections/aircraft/s/s-3b-viking--navy-one-.html

    There have been presidents that have had presidential yachts:

    Knutson, Lawrence L. “The Floating White House.” May 21, 2015. The White House Historical Association. https://www.whitehousehistory.org/the-floating-white-house

    January 6th:

    Duignan, Brian. “January 6 U.S. Capitol Attack. Updated January 5, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/event/January-6-U-S-Capitol-attack

    When the plane hit the Pentagon:

    PBS. “Attack on Pentagon [Video].” https://watch.whyy.org/show/911-inside-pentagon/video/911-inside-pentagon-attack-pentagon/?tab=extra

    Rumsfeld:

    U.S. Department of War. “Donald H. Rumsfeld.” https://www.war.gov/About/Biographies/Biography/Article/602800/donald-h-rumsfeld/

    Mall of America:

    https://www.mallofamerica.com/

    Golden Gate Bridge:

    https://www.goldengate.org/

    National laboratories:

    U.S. Department of Energy. “National Laboratories.” https://www.energy.gov/national-laboratories

    There was a book published in the early 2000s called Doomsday Scenario:

    1. Douglas Keeney. The Doomsday Scenario. Zenith. 2002.
    2. Is the phrase “continuity of government” used somewhere:

      White House Info. “Continuity of Government.” https://whitehouse.gov1.info/continuity-plan/

      Most of that is administered by FEMA, actually:

      https://www.fema.gov/

      FEMA was sort of the progeny of a couple of other agencies:

      FEMA. “History of FEMA.” https://www.fema.gov/about/history

      But for, “We’ve been nuked”:

      FEMA. “Nuclear Detonation Response Guidance [PDF].” March 2023. https://www.fema.gov/sites/default/files/documents/fema_oet-72-hour-nuclear-detonation-response-guidance.pdf

      Plans that would effectively suspend the Constitution:

      Burr, William (Ed.). “The Presidential Nuclear ‘Football’ From Eisenhower to George W. Bush.” July 18, 2023. https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2023-07-18/presidential-nuclear-football-eisenhower-george-w-bush

      Like the War Production Board:

      Purcell, Aaron D. “War Production Board.” 2021. EBSCO. https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/military-history-and-science/war-production-board#full-article

      The USDA:

      https://www.usda.gov/

      Steve was close. It’s the National Resource Conservation Service:

      https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/

      They have a web soil map program:

      https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/conservation-basics/soil/web-soil-survey-links

      Let’s take COVID for an example:

      CDC. “CDC Museum COVID-19 Timeline.” https://www.cdc.gov/museum/timeline/covid19.html

      Most emergency management stuff is really run at the county level:

      Bexar County. “Bexar County Office of Emergency Management.” https://www.bexar.org/672/Emergency-Management

      Our first cocktail was Corpse Reviver (this isn’t the recipe we used, but it’s close):

      https://www.liquor.com/recipes/corpse-reviver-no-1/

      The 12 Bottle Bar Book:

      David Solmonson and Lesley Jacobs Solmonson. The 12 Bottle Bar: Make Hundreds of Cocktails With Just 12 Bottles. 2014. Workman Publishing Company.

      The next one was Atomic cocktail:

      https://www.diffordsguide.com/cocktails/recipe/115/atomic-cocktail

      The Savoy Cocktail Book:

      Harry Craddock. The Savoy Cocktail Book. 1930. Constable & Company, Ltd.

      Absinthe and Champagne is called Death in the Afternoon:

      https://www.liquor.com/recipes/death-in-the-afternoon/

      Jonestown in the afternoon:

      Eldridge, Alison. “Jonestown.” Updated April 16, 2026. Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/event/Jonestown

      We at Civics on the Rocks (mostly Anne) would like to apologize for making jokes in poor taste about suicide and cults. We (again, it was pretty much Anne) meant no offense.

      The Texas Water Conference:

      https://www.txwater.org/

      Treated biosolids from sewer plants:

      EPA. “Biosolids.” https://www.epa.gov/biosolids

      This isn’t from the conference Steve went to, but you know you want to see competitive hydrant assemblies:

      https://youtu.be/JxDhqdD8aE4?si=7uwUPx72DbfSxhKv

      The Edwards is not the only source of water for San Antonio:

      San Antonio Water System. “Water Supplies.” https://www.saws.org/your-water/management-sources/#section-1

      Primarily, it was always the Edwards Aquifer:

      San Antonio Water System. “Edwards Aquifer.” https://www.saws.org/your-water/management-sources/edwards-aquifer/

      Ground water not under the influence (yeah, no, that’s a term):

      West Virginia Department of Health. “Groundwater Under Direct Influence of Surface Water (GWUDI).” https://oehs.wvdhhr.org/eed/source-water-assessment-wellhead-protection/groundwater-under-direct-influence-of-surface-water-gwudi/

      It is very very hard here:

      Hearst Newspaper Blogger Network. “How to Deal With San Antonio Hard Water in Your New Home.” March 2, 2023. https://www.mysanantonio.com/lifestyle/san-antonio-life/home/article/how-to-deal-with-san-antonio-hard-water-17816666.php

      San Antonio Water System:

      https://www.saws.org/

      Softeners, which swap out the calcium and magnesium, but mostly calcium, for sodium:

      Swistock, Bryan. “Water Softening.” https://extension.psu.edu/water-softening

      One of the first, if not the first, direct potable reuse systems:

      El Paso Water. “Pure Water Center.” https://www.epwater.org/our-water/water-resources/pure-water-center

      We couldn’t find the study about the Rhine that Steve was talking about, but we believe it after learning a little bit about the river:

      International River Foundation. “River Rhine.” https://www.riverfoundation.org.au/prizes/river-rhine/

      Corpse Reviver #2:

      https://www.liquor.com/recipes/corpse-reviver-no-2/

      After Snowmageddon:

      The Texas A&M University System. “Winter Storm Uri.” https://tdem.texas.gov/disasters/winter-storm-uri

      Anne got a little prepper:

      https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prepper

      The Sierra Club has an excellent list of things to go in a go bag:

      Sierra Club. “Ready to Pack an Emergency Go Bag?” https://www.sierraclub.org/emergency-go-bag

      There is still a website called Ready.gov:

      https://www.ready.gov/

      And the Stargate is a stable wormhole device placed on the Earth in ancient times by aliens posing as gods. But you already knew that.

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    A history teacher and an engineer walk into a bar…ouch! Except there isn’t a bar. But there are dad jokes. And whiskey. Two guys who know a few things, have been around a few blocks, and a few cocktails, discuss politics, science, history, technology, and the planet Earth. They also warp through rabbit holes in both the Federation and the Galactic Empire, and toast the ashes of the Twelve Colonies. And did I mention dad jokes? Yeah. Grab a drink, pull up a chair, and join us for Civics on the Rocks.