In this episode of Civil Discourse 101, Joe, Jesse, are joined by Calvin to discuss the ongoing government shutdown, its impact on citizens, and the broader implications for trust in government. They explore the symbolism of government shutdowns, the role of leadership, and the effects of privatization on public goods. The conversation also touches on U.S. foreign policy, particularly regarding Venezuela, and the challenges of access to healthcare and services. They emphasize the importance of community support and the need for effective leadership in addressing these issues. So sit back, relax, and get ready to have a civil conversation.