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- We need a better way for interested people to have a safer experience and be fit enough, and well prepared enough so we can actually revive the horse industry in a way that people can be proud to be part of it, says author and horse trainer Leslie Desmond.

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MOZ (moments of Zen) refers to moments I have experienced with horses that have taught me something important or inspired me to make a significant shift in the way I relate to or understand my horses. This is one of those moments.

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- The idea of a horse seeing a human as dominant is pretty sketchy. We really don’t know what horses think, but it works much better to not load them up with all this nonsense, says Dr. Andrew McLean, zoologist and CEO of Equitation Science International.

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- There are so many things we, as human beings, get wrong with horses. We know better, but we have also got to do better and we have got to be much smarter about their real welfare, says Dr. Andrew McLean in this interview about equine cognition and learning.

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Deconstructing Natural Horsemanship: Groundwork is the foundation for riding. So why in the world would you ask your horse to elevate the neck and hollow the back - which is the exact opposite of what riding in balance is all about? This episode is a transcript of episode 2 of 44 on the Norwegian podcast Hestenes klan.