In this episode of Clarity in Controversy, Tanner DiBella sits down with Dr. Scott Hagan for one of the most charged and timely conversations happening in American Christianity today. What begins as a discussion becomes a deep exploration of history, theology, and the complicated crossroads of faith and nation.
Together, they dive into the heart of the debate: Is Christian nationalism a return to biblical conviction, or a dangerous blending of God and country. Where is the line between loving your nation and worshiping an idea of it. Can the global Church help us see our national identity with greater humility and clarity.
Drawing on ancient history, modern research, and pastoral insight, Tanner and Dr. Hagan trace the story from Constantine’s empire to Pew’s latest numbers, revealing how faith and power have always wrestled for the human heart. They examine patriotism, identity, cultural Christianity, and the subtle ways believers mistake conservatism for discipleship. Most of all, they call listeners to discernment, spiritual courage, and a love for Christ that stands above every flag.
This conversation is challenging, refreshing, and needed. If you want clarity on one of the most misunderstood topics in the Church today, this episode is for you.