Sam dials in with one of Australia's most storied names in pop music, Ben Lee, to chat about his latest single "Born for this Bullshit". They delve deep into Ben's love of the no-rules approach to musical careers, the key to casting your musical entourage, and why Ben always wanted to be insane, in this broad and philosophical conversation.

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