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In this conversation, Millie and Kathy discuss the progress of crate training and the challenges they face with resource guarding. They also explore how to improve the relationship between Jen and Kelsey, and how to set boundaries during activities like dock diving. They discuss the importance of eye contact and impulse control, and provide strategies for teaching these behaviors. They also address the issue of Kelsey's excitement during stick retrieval and suggest ways to lower the intensity and build impulse control. Overall, the conversation focuses on creating productive interactions and changing the dynamics between the dogs and their owners. They cover topics such as teaching recall, structured play, drop it command, and using an e-collar for training. They also discuss crate training and mealtime routines. Overall, Kathy has made significant progress with Kelsey's behavior, but there is still room for improvement.

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